zodiac mkII type 2259. any info?

Surefire · 16 November 2009, 09:24

Hello there! my first post!

i just bought an Zodiac mkII type 2259 witohout seeing it before buy, So when i unpacked it I soon realised that this boat needed som work doing

And i cant find any info on the boat, Is it hypalon or pvc? what year? etc. So if anyone have any specs on i would be really glad.

So the bottom of the boat is really dry and has small small cracks in the "rubber" is it possible to paint it with some rubber paint?

well! i have a lot of questions, so if anyone is interested lets get a discussion going around my boat

Thank you, And excuse my english.

prairie tuber · 16 November 2009, 13:08

Congratulations on the boat, it looks very interesting! Where on the boat is that fabric label located? Is there some type of identification plate on the transom? Are your side stringers made of wood or aluminum?

Surefire · 16 November 2009, 13:12

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Originally Posted by prairie tuber

Congratulations on the boat, it looks very interesting! Where on the boat is that fabric label located? Is there some type of identification plate on the transom? Are your side stringers made of wood or aluminum?

Thanks!

that fabric label comes from one of the bags to the boat.

The identification plate is gone =(

the side stringers are made of aluminium. ( I guess you mean the things you squeese between the floor and the tubes)

prairie tuber · 16 November 2009, 13:43

I would guess that it is from the somewhere around the early-mid 1970's. Has it been holding air well?

Surefire · 16 November 2009, 15:06

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I would guess that it is from the somewhere around the early-mid 1970's. Has it been holding air well?

yes, that would be my guess to. But it would be nice to find som kind of specs.

yes, it has been holding air quite well. but the middle thing is leaking, but i have a new one.

Locozodiac · 16 November 2009, 16:49

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Originally Posted by Surefire

Hello there! my first post!
And i cant find any info on the boat, Is it hypalon or pvc? what year? etc. So if anyone have any specs on i would be really glad.

Looks like Comander Jaques Costeau hypalon traditional sib. Post pics on the points needing tech advise, make a soapy water test to look for air leakes. Welcome to Ribnet.

Happy Sibbing

Surefire · 17 November 2009, 11:27

I told them about my bottom of the boat, That the hypalon has started to get small cracks in it. He told me to throw the boat away, that it was nothing to work with

what do u guys think?

9D280 · 17 November 2009, 13:39

I bet in the next breath he offered to sell you a nice new one to replace it?

I get answers like that all the time.....

Jumping back to the paint, Mine was painted when I bought it, but the paint was flaking. So I sanded the flaky bits off to improve the look until I could repaint it. It went from holding air for 3-4 weeks to going flat in 2 days! I think you should be able to get some solvent to paint on (I think you also use it to create a good "key" for the Hypalon paint) - That should re- stick your cracks & then a coat of Hypalon paint over the top will fill in the big holes.

Surefire · 17 November 2009, 13:48

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Originally Posted by 9D280

I bet in the next breath he offered to sell you a nice new one to replace it?

I get answers like that all the time.....

Jumping back to the paint, Mine was painted when I bought it, but the paint was flaking. So I sanded the flaky bits off to improve the look until I could repaint it. It went from holding air for 3-4 weeks to going flat in 2 days! I think you should be able to get some solvent to paint on (I think you also use it to create a good "key" for the Hypalon paint) - That should re- stick your cracks & then a coat of Hypalon paint over the top will fill in the big holes.

Hehe, the stupid thing was that he didnt offer me anything at all

you havnt painted yours since you sanded it? do you have any pics?

solvent? is that some kind of glue?

prairie tuber · 17 November 2009, 14:06

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Originally Posted by Surefire

I told them about my bottom of the boat, That the hypalon has started to get small cracks in it. He told me to throw the boat away, that it was nothing to work with

what do u guys think?

I think that if you have a boat that is holding air well, and this 'repair expert' tells yo to throw it away, he is a complete jackass. Worth a look;

http://www.synergy.ca/

http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?p=234745

Surefire · 17 November 2009, 14:16

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Originally Posted by prairie tuber

I think that if you have a boat that is holding air well, and this 'repair expert' tells yo to throw it away, he is a complete jackass. Worth a look;

http://www.synergy.ca/

http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?p=234745

I think so too. but thats his loss.

yes, i have had a look att those products,. but as one of the guys in the thread says, There must be some one on this forum that can show som results of doing it? the pictures on the manufactures home page doesnt say that much?

9D280 · 17 November 2009, 14:21

Not yet... the engine blew up not long after I sanded the toobs & rebuilding it kind of took priority...

Not to hand. I think there's a post out there somewhere with a pic of my dodgy toobs on, just can't find it.
EDIT: Found one before I sanded it - that any use?

Solvent...kind of. It's a liquid that will dissolve the material you put it on, and when it evaporates it all fuses together. A bit like water and earth. If you have lumps of earth in a bucket, add water it all turns to mud. When the water evaporates you get a solid lump of earth in the bototm of the bucket. Does that make sense?

Surefire · 20 November 2009, 12:17

Some new pictures.

Can anyone tell me what the loose things i pulled of under my boat is ?

is there any way of repairing it?

is there anyone who has really tried the hypalon paint you can buy? and who can show some pictures?

I add a picture of the result of some cleaning i did yesterday. no expencive cleaning product used

prairie tuber · 20 November 2009, 13:03

Looks like dried up stips of seam tape. The cleaning results look great, just be absolutely certain that the cleaning product does not contain any silicone whatsoever. (Armor-all is a big no-no!)

Surefire · 20 November 2009, 13:30

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Originally Posted by prairie tuber

Looks like dried up stips of seam tape. The cleaning results look great, just be absolutely certain that the cleaning product does not contain any silicone whatsoever. (Armor-all is a big no-no!)

yes its like a tape over the seam

is it possible to buy tape like that?

entropy · 20 November 2009, 22:03

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Originally Posted by Surefire

Some new pictures.

I add a picture of the result of some cleaning i did yesterday. no expencive cleaning product used

Wow, nice cleaning job. What did you use to cut through all the stuff on the tubes?

Greg

willie · 24 November 2009, 06:19

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Originally Posted by prairie tuber

Looks like dried up stips of seam tape. The cleaning results look great, just be absolutely certain that the cleaning product does not contain any silicone whatsoever. (Armor-all is a big no-no!)

What does silicon or armor all do to the tubes?

prairie tuber · 24 November 2009, 11:47

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Originally Posted by Surefire

yes its like a tape over the seam

is it possible to buy tape like that?

Any local hypalon supplier should also have this tape available. Failing that, PM Paul Tilley, he'll be able to supply you with what you need.

prairie tuber · 24 November 2009, 11:49

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Originally Posted by willie

What does silicon or armor all do to the tubes?

Silicone breaks down the hypalon, it also makes it impossible to glue patches & re-glue seams.

Surefire · 25 November 2009, 07:56

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Originally Posted by entropy

Wow, nice cleaning job. What did you use to cut through all the stuff on the tubes?

Greg

I used ordinary home cleaning stuff

and stuff for cleaning plastic furniture..

How can i make sure my boat are made of Hypalon?