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Old 14 February 2016, 16:50   #151
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Old 14 February 2016, 16:52   #152
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Old 14 February 2016, 16:58   #153
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Old 14 February 2016, 17:49   #154
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>>>Are you getting out this time of the year or preparing for Spring?

We managed loads of outings in 2015 but so far this year has been plans and prep stuff. At the moment one of our daughters needs support in a sat/sun weekend activity and that's taking out our boating opportunities... no matter as we have some fantastic possibilities as the year moves on.

Very close to buying a new engine and that will need running in so once purchased I won't be able to resist getting some salt water through it.

Another great report of your outings. The prop is looking a little ragged compared to the initial images of your outfit but it doesn't look ready for overhaul yet.

Losing the threaded key is one of the big disadvantages of that wheel type. There were three variants at least of the wheel set as supplied by Zodiac (I've had all three types). One had the leg in a high grade black coating, then a galvanised type and also a shiny plated type. But as far as I know there is only one Zodiac part no for the replacement (expensive!) threaded key. Have you been to a dealer to try one in yours?

Not quite sure what you mean by straight and spiral thread differences??

What I have done in the past is to get a high grade stainless bolt with wing nut that is just smaller than the existing thread on the leg so the bolt slides through. I've also always carried a spare pair of these bolts/wingnuts when using this transom wheel type just in case I lost the proper threaded key.

If the floor wasn't settled down properly that could have steered the boat a bit... also has the outboard a variable trim tab above the prop and could this have been knocked out of place?

That camcorder case for a battery holder is a great simple idea I'd not thought of... I have loads of old small camcorder ones spare which would be perfect for the battery and coiled excess cable from my Garmin GPS/depthsounder. I can hang it as you've shown from the grab "rail" near the seat... thanks for the idea.
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Old 15 February 2016, 02:32   #155
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Well done for getting out, we are pretty much 'fair weather fairies' and the boat has been packed away for a few months now. Normally think about getting it out after Easter. The Land Rover thing didn't help...

I'd get a file on the prop and tidy it up. not sure it will create the pulling effect, our Tohatsu did this pretty badly but the Mariner is really easy with no pull to one side.
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Old 15 February 2016, 02:55   #156
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yep as above tidy the prop up to keep it in balance.
on your bolts tie a lanyard on them that way if you drop it its on the end of the string.
i would invest in a decent flotation suit to keep you warm such as a fladen & neoprene welly's.wind chill at speed is a killer especially if clothing is tight plenty of layers thermals are good too bit old fashioned but hey better to be warm than cold and look good
steering wise i am the same as you if i don't use my left hand the boats all over the place so i stick to sitting on the port side unless trolling.
the battery bag is spot on by the way.
keep going out to iron out the the little things that need attention, i would seriously think about a spare prop just in case you ding yours proper especially in rivers with all the crap that's been thrown in over the years.

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Old 17 February 2016, 08:07   #157
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Turn key NO. Z2281 I bought one from Salterns Boatyard back in 2008 cost me 17.17 posted but they do come in pairs so you will have a spare!
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Old 20 February 2016, 06:17   #158
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Hi, thank you both for the encouragement and as always to Fenlander. Below I show the difference between the two bolts with the same part number. I need the off angle 2001 twisted one. Thanks. I will try that supplier you recommend. A pair, tied on isn't a bad idea.

RE the prop, may invest in a spare one. Is this the repairable on the water with socket set if I have a disaster?

I am going to start a couple of new threads on visitor moorings on the Tidal Thames and Sib to the Isle of Wight (Ryde), the next adventure.
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Old 20 February 2016, 06:28   #159
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It's a little difficult to judge with the slight camera distortion but the leading end of your old bolt seems to have the same thread pitch as the new one... the thread only looks more angled towards the crank handle..... as if the top of the thread has been stretched by overtightening.

I'd be proving this by popping to a local hardware store and trying a correct size nut on both.

It could be that the thread inside the leg has become distorted over time in a way that matches the old bolt so now the new bolt isn't an easy fit.

What happens when you gently try screwing the new one into the leg... is it immediately tight?
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RE the prop, may invest in a spare one. Is this the repairable on the water with socket set if I have a disaster?
Do you mean can you change a prop afloat?

The easy answer is yes. Things are not quite so simple in reality. With a L/Shaft engine on a small boat the prop is a long reach over the transom which makes it at least awkward, and potentially dangerous depending on the conditions, who else is on board etc. I've heard of people on bigger boats actually going for a "swim" to do it.

The good news is that usually when you ding the prop you are close to shore so can at least anchor.

So lets assume you've got the boat in a safe, sheltered spot, and disconnected the kill cord etc. You first need to remove the split pin - usually you'll need pliers. Assume you'll drop it so you'll need a spare split pin. Then you need to remove the castellated nut - it shouldn't be ridiculously tight but you will need a spanner or socket the right size. Check before you go, usually this is bigger than most small tool kits include; you can get a floating spanner. You then need to remove the prop from the shaft. Hopefully it just slides off (because you greased the shaft last time right?) - but you might need something to help get it moving, especially if your angle is a bit awkward. Now you may find the thrust washer is stuck to the old prop - so you either need a spare thrust washer or some way to prise it off (like a big screwdriver). Some marine grease on the shaft and reassemble in the reverse order, doing the nut up finger tight and then just enough to get the split pin through. You'll appreciate that doing this hanging half upside down off the transom in a swell is not going to be trivial and having all your tools etc on a lanyard will make it much less likely to go badly wrong. I strongly suggest practicing in the driveway or somewhere else much less hostile so you know what to expect!

I imagine most SIBbers will just use low revs to limp ashore and either straighten the worst of the damage with some pliers/lump of wood or make alternative arrangements but I take a spare on holiday with me as missing a couple of days whilst trying to source one would be a PITA.
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