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Old 09 May 2014, 12:09   #41
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Hi max is the zodiac and mercury still for sale? Is the engine 2 or 4 stroke and how much does it weigh?
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Old 09 May 2014, 17:32   #42
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Just noticed this thread and people saying you need big hp to waterski I used to ski behind my pal's bombard aerotec with a 25 and im 6'4"&13 stone
It wasnt electrifying but easily dooable with 2 skis
Depends on your skiing ability and wether you want to mono or not iirc it used to bog out if I tried to lift one ski to drop one off
Probably a 30hp 2cyl 2stroke yam would be the ideal engine for you as its the same engine as the 25hp
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Old 10 May 2014, 13:17   #43
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Zodiac looks nice! Looked at Honwave today. Looked nice. Friend is dealer so can get good price. Question is at 3.8 m would I need 10hp or 15-20. I would like to get it on the plane with 3-4 people.
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With a HonWave T38, 10hp would not be enough and for 3-4 people you are right on the edge. It might plane with a 15hp, depending on actual weight of passengers, kit, wind and sea state. But to be sure to plane you need a 20hp.

T38 is a great choice, solid boat, big tubes, good internal space and excellent resale value. At around 40% of the price of a new Bombard 380, it makes a lot of sense. My advice is always go for the biggest engine option, you can always use less power in normal use but it has the grunt if you really need it. I do however understand that a new 4 stroke 20hp weighs the same as Big Ben, so compromise may be needed if carrying it by hand.
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Not sure if you're talking air or solid?

Some poor reports of 3.8m airfloors on here, a step too far and floppy, wallowing etc - with definite exception of Aerotec. Stick to that or 3.4 flat airfloor.

A 3.8 solid floor is a heavy old boat, you'd probably want a 25 minimum in one of those 3 or 4 up, forget a 9.8 or even 15. At that length you're borderline RIB territory. Again run a search for loads of previous topics on all this.
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Not sure if you're talking air or solid?

Some poor reports of 3.8m airfloors on here, a step too far and floppy, wallowing etc - with definite exception of Aerotec. Stick to that or 3.4 flat airfloor.

A 3.8 solid floor is a heavy old boat, you'd probably want a 25 minimum in one of those 3 or 4 up, forget a 9.8 or even 15. At that length you're borderline RIB territory. Again run a search for loads of previous topics on all this.
Id agree with this an aerotec is probably the closest you will get to a rib
My pal had a 15 on his to start and it was ok but he soon changed to a 25

Ive also been in 3.8 flat airfloor boats and they seem to twist along their length
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The 3.8 Honda is a V air floor, it isnt as good as the Bombard (I have had both) but at 900 V 2400 for an Aerotech I can see the attraction and would live with its limitations if I couldnt stretch to a Bombard.

The key with all the airfloors, especially the V versions, is get the right pressure. A Bravo electric pump is worth its weight in gold. When I owned the Honwave I used a foot pump and at times was less than impressed with the floor. I have since tried one that had been pumped up (in the water) by an auto pump, it made a huge difference for the better.

Having said all that, I would probably buy the used Bombard with the Selva thats been knocking about on Ebay for a few weeks. I know the Selva isnt great, but at the price he wants its a cheap way to get into a 380
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How much does it weigh? Would two people be okay to lift it?
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Do the 3.8 is floppy with an air floor? We are looking to carry 2-4 people. Could I go smaller? Use would be spearfishing and fishing, cove cruising. Need to decide on boat. Thought air deck was my best option if packing away
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Do the 3.8 is floppy with an air floor? We are looking to carry 2-4 people. Could I go smaller? Use would be spearfishing and fishing, cove cruising. Need to decide on boat. Thought air deck was my best option if packing away
Used my Aerotec 380/Yam 15hp for fishing & cruising with my 2 lads. A great package for inshore fun. Providing the air pressure was correct, the 'v' hull air deck got the aerotec on the plane with little fuss, although never used it for towing.
Transportation in the boot of the car, 20 minutes to set up and an easy launch with launch wheels. Do not consider anything smaller if you are considering carrying 2-4 people
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