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Old 07 May 2014, 11:28   #11
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Not keeping it trailered
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Old 07 May 2014, 12:22   #12
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Which rib??

Then unless you're an Olympic weightlifter you're unlikely to want anything bigger than a 25hp 2-stroke.

Unfortunately fold up boats and waterskiing are pretty much mutually exclusive.

The most recommended boat for performance and packability is a Bombard Aerotec 380 with a 15 or 25hp 2-stroke.
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You can ski behind a Futura, I had a 4.6m Sport with a 50hp Yamaha that easily pulled my lardy arse out of the water. It was also quick enough for mono skiing (just).

But mine had an alloy floor and jockey console and although you could break it down it was much easier to trail it.

If you want to rig each time you will want an airfloor like the Futura Mk3 FR but the engine is still going to be a massive weight. Best option would be a 40hp 2 stroke, but it will still need 2 of you to carry it. A 40hp will ski most normal sized adults. Tiller steer is easier to set up, the Zodiac Futura steering system works well but its a big faff to rig for a day out.

As Henry said, rough water handling wont be a patch on a Searider, but it calmer conditions you will leave it for dead

You are going to need a very big car to get all this gear in, think Range Rover size boot, and it will soon become a big pain to use for a day out. The poster above is right, 3.8m airfloor is the biggest you want for a day sailor, Bombard 380 or Zodiac Futura Mk2C FR both work well as fast day boats with 25hp.
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You can ski behind a Futura, I had a 4.6m Sport with a 50hp Yamaha that easily pulled my lardy arse out of the water. It was also quick enough for mono skiing (just).

But mine had an alloy floor and jockey console and although you could break it down it was much easier to trail it.

If you want to rig each time you will want an airfloor like the Futura Mk3 FR but the engine is still going to be a massive weight. Best option would be a 40hp 2 stroke, but it will still need 2 of you to carry it. A 40hp will ski most normal sized adults. Tiller steer is easier to set up, the Zodiac Futura steering system works well but its a big faff to rig for a day out.

As Henry said, rough water handling wont be a patch on a Searider, but it calmer conditions you will leave it for dead

You are going to need a very big car to get all this gear in, think Range Rover size boot, and it will soon become a big pain to use for a day out. The poster above is right, 3.8m airfloor is the biggest you want for a day sailor, Bombard 380 or Zodiac Futura Mk2C FR both work well as fast day boats with 25hp.
what were you getting WOT with the 4.6 and 50hp?
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what were you getting WOT with the 4.6 and 50hp?

We used it as a test bed for a friend who had MGA Marine,tried a couple of rather special props, no weight on board and a heavy right hand it would top out just below 50mph.

Conditions needed to be perfect, calm water with slight popple was the best.
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We used it as a test bed for a friend who had MGA Marine,tried a couple of rather special props, no weight on board and a heavy right hand it would top out just below 50mph.

Conditions needed to be perfect, calm water with slight popple was the best.
Nos was saying he clocked his sr4 at 44mph, not too far off
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Nos was saying he clocked his sr4 at 44mph, not too far off
Yeah, but I needed a long lie down after... 44mph in an SR4 when the chinewalk started 5 knots earlier is quite ...exhilarating
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Yeah, but I needed a long lie down after... 44mph in an SR4 when the chinewalk started 5 knots earlier is quite ...exhilarating
You have bigger ones than me I wimped out a long way before 40 in a chine walking SR4
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Is the aluminium floor in the futura that hard to break down in a day trip then?
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Is the aluminium floor in the futura that hard to break down in a day trip then?

Nope, its all quite easy with practice. Its just takes time and effort to get on the water, after a while it becomes the reason you dont use the boat.

From arriving at the lake to setting off takes about 15 mins for a Bombard 380 Aerodeck and a 2 stroke 25hp using an electric pump. The whole thing can be done by 1 person and doesnt take a lot of effort. A 4m+ hard floor boat is a lot more work, it really needs 2 people and the time involved is doubled. Add on a steering system and a 40hp motor and you are looking at a minimum of an hour and a lot of sweat to set up.

People do use bigger sibs like this and I have no doubt that with practice you can get the set up time reduced, but most people give up way before this and buy a trailer.

I did exactly the same with a Honwave T40, fantastic boat, huge space, great speed, pulled my son wakeboarding and it all went in the back of a Range Rover (just). I used it like this twice before buying a trailer.
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