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Old 11 July 2013, 16:20   #31
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Blimey Mart, John's was at one end of the scale but yours is kinda the opposite end...!
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Thanks Hugh, much appreciated - what is typical? I don't have any to measure...
5:1 or so (at a guess)?
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Portable Winch PCW3000 | F R Jones and Son

Admittedly not a budget option but would do the job well.
That looks very interesting! The gas operation and ability to use an unlimited length of rope continuously would extremely useful in the back country.
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http://www.portablewinch.com/ the Canadian manufacturer of similar if not the same,

I looked at importing them a few years back.

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That looks very interesting! The gas operation and ability to use an unlimited length of rope continuously would extremely useful in the back country.
I've heard good reports about them and I see one in my horoscope. Just need to find an excuse
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I I see one in my horoscope. Just need to find an excuse
Moose hunting?
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Also, even with what seem like light loads, never use a tow ball as an anchor point for winches and tow straps. This has caused many deaths.
Can you elaborate.Why isit so dangerous?
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Can you elaborate.Why isit so dangerous?
I think its when the attachment comes off the ball. If you are reliant on a hoop over the ball thats not as secure as the ball fitting on a trailer, AND on a trailer thats known to fail hence has a breakaway cable or secondary chain on unbreaked trailers.

Risk if you are behind the trailer cascading backdown the slipway!

Risk if the winch cable snaps up and hits your face head body. Has the ability to decapitate if you get it 'just right'

Also a risk if a cable snaps but I don't see that matters what the fixing point is.
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Trailers balls become flying canon balls when broken off, that is the main reason. As others have suggested a tow strap being snapped back can also inflict major injury if it comes off the ball which can happen fairly easily. A Hook is far superior. A continuous load situation is one thing where it is loaded with 500lbs or so. When recovering a vehicle a full throttle launch can produce 20,000 lbs to snatch the stuck vehicle loose, and that is when stuff breaks.

We got away from using steel winch cables on our Jeeps after having one go thru a windshield when it broke. Fortunately it hit the passenger side and the driver was safe. Yes we had a tow strap draped over the cable at the halfway point, and it broke just behind it. Winch rope is far safer as it just drops to the ground.
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I think we're getting slightly carried away here. The OP was about dragging a small inflatable up a beach, not debogging a monster truck!
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