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Old 23 August 2015, 07:23   #1
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What Engine & SIB

Hi there,

Sorry if this has been asked but I'm a bit new owning an inflatable boat.

Basically I am looking to purchase a inflatable to cruise around the sea (in good weather) close to shore to do a bit of fishing.

I am pretty safety cautious as I will be taking my son out who is 12.

What I would appreciate is advice on what size HP engine I need to just get out and around 100-200m safely.

Also any advice on if I should get one brand new or get a second hand one for obviously a lot less.

I will be using it mainly off the coast in Hastings area.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

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Old 23 August 2015, 07:24   #2
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Sorry also what type of boat do people recommend.
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You asked (on the other thread) about 2.7m and a 2.3HP - these are fine for pootling about in sheltered waters on a fine day, but the boat will be VERY small! I know - I have one I have a 9.8hp on mine and it's dangerously quick. A 2.3hp is not much more than a replacement for oars and will only move you along at slow speeds with the boat deep in the water (not planing) which will result in a very wet and splashy experience as the boat will ship more waves when loaded.

My advice is to read this thread and the daughter threads as well: Which SIB, which SIB, which SIB!

And then browse the Inflatables forum before coming back with more questions
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to cruise around the sea (in good weather)
Cruise means different things to different people. One here a cruise will often be referrring to a 120NM adventure at 25knots. I think what you've already described makes it obvious you aren't referring to that kind of distance. But are you referring to pootling along at not much more than walking speeds or are you wanting a bit of excitement and feeling like you are going really fast (you'll probably be only hitting 20kts but it'll feel like doing 50-60mph in a car!)

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close to shore to do a bit of fishing.
How close is close. Too close is at least as risk as too far out, certainly if that shore is rocky and the tide and wind are in the "wrong" direction so that an engine failure means you are on the rocks.

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What I would appreciate is advice on what size HP engine I need to just get out and around 100-200m safely.
Is that 200m off the shore line? Or 200m depth of water?
Is the 200m from your point of departure or are you thinking leave the slip way motor for 200m and turn right and follow the coastline for 10miles, keeping 200m off the shore line. The distance to a point of safety will be as important as the distance off the shore.

I will be using it mainly off the coast in Hastings area.
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You asked (on the other thread) about 2.7m and a 2.3HP - these are fine for pootling about in sheltered waters on a fine day, but the boat will be VERY small!
I have a 2.3m (basically a tender) with an old seagul that was marketed as 2.5HP but probably gives 1HP. I've had it pretty much at maximum weight and it feels very safe and controlled (what people on here would call SLOW) - but thats for a quickslow pootle round a bay in very nice weather. I agree with Willk that size is an issue - not sure there is much room for fishing.
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I've modified willks phrase - if you are the picky type who reads too much into the words people use you might think he was saying "don't darken our doors again without having read every post on the site" in reality I think he was probably meaning "read the stickys etc, and use that to generate some specific questions".

You will of course get 40 recommendations from the next 40 ribnetters - most of which will say "I own a XXX boat with a YYY engine. You should buy that"

You may need to think about budget first and then people can suggest how you can achieve what you want with the available budget. Need to state if that budget is for the boat+engine or for everything you might want/need - insurance, launch wheels, storage, fuel tanks, PB2 course, lifejackets, wetsuit/dry suit/wet weather gear, radio, VHF course, PLB, flares, anchor, aux engine, liferaft!, helicopter permanently flying over just in case...
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Old 23 August 2015, 09:32   #5
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I've modified willks phrase - if you are the picky type who reads too much into the words people use you might think he was saying "don't darken our doors again without having read every post on the site" in reality I think he was probably meaning "read the stickys etc, and use that to generate some specific questions".
Err, thanks Shiny, generally I have to rely on Mrs willk to tell me what I MEANT rather than what I SAID...

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OMG - AJ was offering me his Misses Brother to marry, now you are telling me I'm behaving like Mrs Willk... ...I need to urgently do something manly!
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Cruise means different things to different people. One here a cruise will often be referrring to a 120NM adventure at 25knots. I think what you've already described makes it obvious you aren't referring to that kind of distance. But are you referring to pootling along at not much more than walking speeds or are you wanting a bit of excitement and feeling like you are going really fast (you'll probably be only hitting 20kts but it'll feel like doing 50-60mph in a car!)


How close is close. Too close is at least as risk as too far out, certainly if that shore is rocky and the tide and wind are in the "wrong" direction so that an engine failure means you are on the rocks.

Is that 200m off the shore line? Or 200m depth of water?
Is the 200m from your point of departure or are you thinking leave the slip way motor for 200m and turn right and follow the coastline for 10miles, keeping 200m off the shore line. The distance to a point of safety will be as important as the distance off the shore.

I will be using it mainly off the coast in Hastings area.

I have a 2.3m (basically a tender) with an old seagul that was marketed as 2.5HP but probably gives 1HP. I've had it pretty much at maximum weight and it feels very safe and controlled (what people on here would call SLOW) - but thats for a quickslow pootle round a bay in very nice weather. I agree with Willk that size is an issue - not sure there is much room for fishing.

I've modified willks phrase - if you are the picky type who reads too much into the words people use you might think he was saying "don't darken our doors again without having read every post on the site" in reality I think he was probably meaning "read the stickys etc, and use that to generate some specific questions".

You will of course get 40 recommendations from the next 40 ribnetters - most of which will say "I own a XXX boat with a YYY engine. You should buy that"

You may need to think about budget first and then people can suggest how you can achieve what you want with the available budget. Need to state if that budget is for the boat+engine or for everything you might want/need - insurance, launch wheels, storage, fuel tanks, PB2 course, lifejackets, wetsuit/dry suit/wet weather gear, radio, VHF course, PLB, flares, anchor, aux engine, liferaft!, helicopter permanently flying over just in case...

C'mere - have you been let back at the Expresso machine again? Check your pulse, is it racing? Are you fidgeting? 200m depth near Hastings? I don't think he's going that far out! (the Channel Islands) I understand that you're trying to be helpful, but asking him six questions to his one is likely to overwhelm the poor bloke. He's looking for a wee boat - not the answer to Life, the Universe and Everything!

That was an exhaustive reply ShinyShoe and I'm sure it has answered the OPs question and several more that he hadn't even thought of yet. Take care not to expend all your energy today, because you have a busy week coming up!
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Women often like the strong, silent types...
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C'mere - have you been let back at the Expresso machine again?
Can't be doing expresso - can you imagine what happens when I do!

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Really? Do you know something I don't?
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Thanks Shiny Shoe and I'm not the picky type so all advice firmly taken.

Just to explain I'm only looking to go 100m off the shore line and drop a few feathers for Mackeral fishing so no lengthy cruises along the coast required.

I basically just want something that will launch of the beach and has enough power to go against the waves and me not get stranded at see.

I have a budget of about 1500-2000 for boat and engine and will probably look at second hand to get more value for money.

As far as the fishing goes I plan just to 'poodle' out and anchor (won't be going out in rough water) so will only have minimal equipment.

I also have to bear in mind I may be on my own so will have to carry myself.

Thanks again!

Willk- I have looked at that forum and am trying to disect it all! Pretty new to all this so sorry if there are some obvious questions!

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