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01 February 2012, 02:33
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Valve adapters
Why don't valve adapters have a cross piece within them that would force the valve spring down and therefore open the valve for easier inflation?
We could then use electric pumps to fill the boat all the way instead of finishing off with a foot pump to force air through the valve.
I am sure this has been answered many times, I just couldn't find any info on it, cheers.
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01 February 2012, 06:39
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Country: UK - England
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01 February 2012, 06:54
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Country: UK - England
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rich hand
Why don't valve adapters have a cross piece within them that would force the valve spring down and therefore open the valve for easier inflation?
We could then use electric pumps to fill the boat all the way instead of finishing off with a foot pump to force air through the valve.
I am sure this has been answered many times, I just couldn't find any info on it, cheers.
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This isn't correct though - the valve has no effect on the pressure the pump can create, you can only create more pressure in the boat by having a greater pressure outside (ie in the pump) so air wants to move in - no 'air movement pump' (ie the common fan type) can produce more than a few psi so you need a piston type pump either hand stirrup or foot type or a HP Bravo type.
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01 February 2012, 07:25
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Exactly as Max says...there are two types of pump...high volume, low pressure such as you'd use to fill an air bed, and low volume, high pressure such as you'd use to inflate the tyres on your car.
RIB/SIB tubes can be inflated pretty much for volume by the former but need finishing off by the latter to generate the required pressure.
Some pumps, such as the Bravo, are designed for RIB/SIB tube inflation and contain both pumps in one unit...
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01 February 2012, 08:11
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We do find that on occasions the diaphragm inside the valve puts enough pressure on some of the electric inflators to make them switch over to the high pressure pump, having a valve adaptor that pushes in the pin to the diaphragm stops this from happening.
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01 February 2012, 10:33
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Thanks Ribshop I will check to see if they are sold in NZ.
Max, Leapy the issue I have is that my electric pump will not push air past the diaphram atall, therefore the boat doesnt inflate in the slightest. I modified a normal adapter so that it pushed on the spring and it inflated it nearly all the way. This modification wont last which is why I have been trying to find one as I described in the 1st post.
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01 February 2012, 11:04
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Hi Rich
If you cant find any we could pop one in the post for less than £7.00
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01 February 2012, 11:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rich hand
Max, Leapy the issue I have is that my electric pump will not push air past the diaphragm at all
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Ah, ok, I understand now
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01 February 2012, 11:43
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There must be an issue with a faulty valve or pump then - the valves should open with the slightest pressure against them.
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01 February 2012, 12:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Max...
There must be an issue with a faulty valve or pump then - the valves should open with the slightest pressure against them.
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The spring on A7, B7 and C7 need some pressure to release the diaphragm that’s why they don’t leak even with the valve caps off.
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