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Old 26 May 2011, 11:38   #21
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The reason that the Bombard Aerotecs are popular here is that they outperform anything comparable. If you're going to be putting it onto the boot of a car then an inflatable V floor is simply the best option.
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But I don't want that deep V when pulling/walking through shallows
You've mentioned this a couple of times now, but I don't understand why you think it will be an issue. It's really not going to make any difference.
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I don't want the V shape floor inside it gives either.
Have you tried it? The V floor actually gives a lot more usable space because you're not wasting all the area that would be underneath a flat deck.
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I really don't want something where its optimum outboard size will be so heavy it negates my portability requirement.
I think you must be mistaking the Aerotec for something else. It will easily outperform a similarly sized inflatable with a hard floor because it weighs significantly less.

Of your short list, the Zodiac Cadet Fastroller has a flat air floor which is OK, but won't be as good when you're on the plane and it's only 3.6m. The Zodiac Cadet 340 with a wooden floor is smaller, heavier, and more hassle to put together. The Honwave 3.8 has the same shape floor as the Bombard that you don't like.

To be honest, none of the options that anyone has come up with here are going to be very good with four people and a 9.8hp motor. You won't be going fast, so a flat air-floor would do if you really don't want the v floor. Whatever you choose, I would definitely go for an air floor of one sort or another.
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Old 26 May 2011, 14:33   #22
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Here's the type of rocky foreshore we launch from where wheels are no help and any boat over 120lbs and any outboard over 60lbs is a struggle...





John we often end up trolling, pulling or walking the boat through shallows which may be part sand with boulders/stones/rocks so it was my impression that deep V might be more liable to damage. Perhaps I'm wrong?

Appreciate what you say about interior space with a deep V floor but I'd rather a flat floor for the way we carry stuff. Actually from the stowage/carrying stuff point of view I like wood the best.



>>>none of the options that anyone has come up with here are going to be very good with four people and a 9.8hp motor

In truth any of the ones I've shortlisted, and any of the models mentioned by others will be brilliant when in Aug we are exploring remote beaches around the Scottish west coast like this one :-)





As I've said above I'm 100% happy for it not to plane 4 up... we only nip about when 2 up mostly and I know the Tohatsu will give a lively performance when we dump a couple of the crew!

Thanks for the heads up that the Honwave air floor is a deep V... I'll look at some images again to suss that out.



I see there is a very tasty looking 2yr old red Aerotec on ebay at the moment which I'm guessing will come in budget...

Inflatable Boat Bombard Aerotec 380 | eBay UK



BTW if it helps to know what we are upgrading from here's a better view of our Zodiac Mk.I


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Old 26 May 2011, 17:52   #23
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What a smashing set of pics. If you were trying to convince someone on the virtues of sibbing then they just about sum it up
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Old 27 May 2011, 05:36   #24
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What shaft length is needed for the Bombard Aerotec 380? That transom looks like it needs a medium sized outboard leg.
By the way, lovely pics. I wish I ever get there.
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Old 27 May 2011, 08:17   #25
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What shaft length is needed for the Bombard Aerotec 380? That transom looks like it needs a medium sized outboard leg.
By the way, lovely pics. I wish I ever get there.
Normal leg & most raise the outboard by about 3cm too (well I have!)
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Old 29 May 2011, 06:28   #26
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I've pretty well decided an Aerotec 380 isn't what we need but I struggled not to bid on the 2yr old minter I linked to above..

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Only made the min bid of 1000.... if as described looked a bargain to me.
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Old 31 May 2011, 08:23   #27
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Does whatever you buy need to be newish? There are older hyperlon Avon sibs that sort of size for dirt cheap with wood floors? I had a sportboat s400 that was really good and about the size you suggest. That flew along three up with an ancient 15hp, probably be nippy enough two up with your 9.8. It could handle a 25hp apparently. Heavier than an air deck though but we used to lift it from the car to the sea between two of us just fine, then toddle back for the motor. The package with motor and a junk trailer was under 800, boat alone on eBay would probably have cost about 400 and had no patches or repairs. Looked a bit dated but really was the best boating bang per buck I've had. I've passed it on to my brother now who continues to enjoy it. We did get caught out by some nasty wind on tide once and had to pack it in a vw polo, managed to get it all in with the seats folded down so can be packed fairly small.

If an aerotec is an absolute no go then I'd be looking at a honwave personally. They get a good write up and although they are v deck, it's not as deep as a bombards and consequently doesntnperform quite as well. Lots cheaper though.

I'd personally avoid a flat air deck - they just aren't as good as the newer v deck designs. With the keel tube up on one of those I can't see it drawing hardly any less than a v deck anyway. My old 280 air deck was flexy as you like once on the move.
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Old 31 May 2011, 08:48   #28
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Rik some good ideas there. Our current old Zodiac is a minter so I don't want to go backwards and buy a restoration job. I'm happy to buy new or almost new PVC and I guess Hypalon up to 5-10yrs old. I really like those Avon S400 boats.... I don't want a fixed bow dodger though so I'd be looking at the Typhoon model which I think is the black one with red bits and no dodger.

I think there was a lady member on here with a really nice black Typhoon a year or two ago??
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Rather unexpected result from thinking about the ideas that have been posted here. Realised it was probably unrealistic to limit the size/weight of boat to one we could easily lift in over any foreshore type. So we've decided to change our launch locations to slipways where we can use transom wheels so a slightly heavier inflatable will be OK. Crucial to a slightly heavier boat was sourcing a larger (but still manageable by hand) outboard than our 9.8hp, found a mint 15hp 2-stroke which I pick up tomorrow so the boat choice will be a bit more flexible.
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An update that might help others deciding on what to get. As I said a shift in thinking made us realise we could change our launch locations to hard slips etc using transom wheels and so use a slightly larger outboard giving better performance with a larger boat so the family wasn't quite so crushed up for space.

The 2001 Mariner 15 2-stroke we bought has turned out to be a great find for its immaculate condition. For a very short while it was paired with a Zodiac 3.4 Fastroller which we never actually got to the sea. Just inflating and handling it at home made us realise how much we appreciated the very light weight and ease of inflation/packing away from the air floor design.

I also found the PVC far tougher than I'd expected so all worries that perhaps I should be going for Hypalon dissapeared.

Then on something of a whim the Mrs said she'd noticed the 3.6 Fastroller was quite a bit more roomy inside than the 3.4 so why didn't I treat myself to a new 3.6. Well you never turn down encouragement like that so with a fair deal and fast delivery Pennine Marine of Skipton sent me a new one.

It seems very long and VERY white after our original old Zodiac Mk.I but I really like the space and features.

First run will be on the river in a few days and we'll give the outboard a few such river runs so I know it's 100% reliable ready for the sea..... and then off to the West coast of Scotland for our Summer hols for a proper report on this particular air floor's handling/performance.

Thanks for all the ideas and advice.
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