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Old 29 September 2018, 04:49   #1
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Transom wheels difference

Happy Aerotec owner now - I managed to get an 04 year in a surprisingly good state. Nice, clean, no sign of glue failure anywhere. There are only two things I don't like about the purchase: non-battery Bravo pump and no transom wheels.

I'll eBay the current Bravo and get one with internal battery, no drama (probably in a different other though).

On transom wheels I spent yesterday reading various threads from the usual suspects on here and have a question:
When fitted to original transom lugs, what's the difference between original Zodiac and Trem HD 180kg wheels? Are these long enough, still usable length-wise? On some of the pictures Trem wheels looked shorter, but the pictures were taken at an angle.
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Old 29 September 2018, 05:23   #2
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>>> the usual suspects

ha ha

Two images below of my Aerotecs one with the Trem HD and the other OE Zodiac transom wheels.

Both are fine for height but as you can see the Zodiacs set the SIB higher from the ground. However the main choice is do you just want them to launch/retrieve or keep them on to deploy at a mid outing destination? The Zodiac types can be removed and stored upside down while under way but they look daft and can fall off if bumping and vibration shakes the bolts loose.
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Old 29 September 2018, 05:32   #3
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Thanks, really useful pictures!
Is the first photo with Trem wheels? Do these have to be at a slight angle to clear the tubes when flipping up?

I don't yet know the usage patterns with the wheels (this is my first SIB), for now I'm assuming that safely flipping the wheels up is more convenient that having to unscrew them. Time will tell.
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Old 29 September 2018, 06:42   #4
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The angled look is distortion due to the wide angle lens. To fit I set the transom level and then set the legs at 90deg. They missed the tubes fine.

Re the flip or no flip. I started with Zodiac bolt ons for the first few SIBs... then went to Trem flip types... then back to Zodiac... then back to Trems… and now returned to Zodiacs.

What I realised with the Trems was that we used them so little at an interim destination carrying the weight and Mickey Mouse look wasn't worth it for the convenience.... but I kept to them for that "what if" situation where we did need to pull out at a destination.

However the final swap back to the Zodiac type about two years ago was when... after persuasion by The Gurnard... I started carrying two large inflatable rollers for that "what if" time... and in those two years they've never been inflated apart from testing.

They pack away so neatly and live in the bottom of one of our dry bags.
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Old 06 October 2018, 04:48   #5
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The angled look is distortion due to the wide angle lens. To fit I set the transom level and then set the legs at 90deg. They missed the tubes fine.

Re the flip or no flip. I started with Zodiac bolt ons for the first few SIBs... then went to Trem flip types... then back to Zodiac... then back to Trems… and now returned to Zodiacs.

What I realised with the Trems was that we used them so little at an interim destination carrying the weight and Mickey Mouse look wasn't worth it for the convenience.... but I kept to them for that "what if" situation where we did need to pull out at a destination.

However the final swap back to the Zodiac type about two years ago was when... after persuasion by The Gurnard... I started carrying two large inflatable rollers for that "what if" time... and in those two years they've never been inflated apart from testing.

They pack away so neatly and live in the bottom of one of our dry bags.
Ok, time to press the "buy" button on the wheels. Are these the correct Trem wheels for Aerotec?
https://www.marinescene.co.uk/produc...unching-wheels
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Old 06 October 2018, 05:24   #6
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Yes they are the HD type which engage with the "buttons" on the Aerotec… as fitted to my Aerotec in this thread... Trem HD flip up wheels on an Aerotec

Post #22 onwards.
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On the battery pump look at the Itiwit one £39.99 from Decathlon. Very good I have 2 and also the Bravo Electric and I think the Itiwit is way better


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Old 06 October 2018, 06:25   #8
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On the battery pump look at the Itiwit one £39.99 from Decathlon. Very good I have 2 and also the Bravo Electric and I think the Itiwit is way better


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This should be called either witchery or mind reading!
I have been trying (in the last 30 minutes!) to see if I buy a cheap 12V battery for BP12 that came with the SIB, or sell it and get a battery-powered Bravo, or to come up with an extension to 12V cables...

For £39.99 I'll just get one and short-circuit the hassle. Thanks very much for this advice Dennis, really appreciated!
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If buying from scratch I'd not argue against the attraction of a £40 pump vs a £100+ Bravo.... but if your Bravo otherwise works Jerry it's only £12 for a suitable generic battery and it will give you the very useful flexibility of inflation any distance from the car.... and you'd still have to get the battery on top of BPs preferred pump to achieve that.
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The reason I like the Itiwit so much is that the Halkey Roberts adapter that comes with it works very well and connects to my valves well. The Bravo does not come with one and the one you can buy is pants. I think the Aerotec has different valves so perhaps not such a problem


It does however come with a Gigarette plug which is a bit silly. I cut this off and solder on 2 Battery Clips.
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