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Old 11 March 2014, 06:26   #1
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Towing Toys Behind Sib, Any Experience/Advice?

I've had my quicksilver 430 with a 30hp 2 stroke for about 5 yrs now and always have had the insurance to tow toys but never have. Now the kids are definitely the right age, I really want to try. Options are ringo, knee board, wakeboard, skis

Cruising speed on flat water is about 18knts but will do 22knts 2 up with a lot of winter fishing gear. I'm thinking it will be better to keep 2 on boat to help keep bow down and observation. I do have a tiller extension if needed.

Some boating mates have said it would put a lot of strain on transom, might pull the back around on the corners, would be dangerous etc, yet every one I've seen has a ringo with it. The transom has a hoop on each side ready for a bridle. Even people that sell the sea pros say about pulling toys.

People have even told me this set up could even pull a skier under 10 stone?

So, what do you know guys? Any advice?
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Old 11 March 2014, 08:43   #2
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Always Always have at least 2 with the helmsman on board whilst towing.

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I used to have similiar set up (Valiant 3.8 +25hp) and towed ringos/kneeboards/wakeboards (both my kids also learnt to wakeboard off the back) using bridle off transom eyes never had a problem,

I would recommend Obrien screamer as a bit of fun for all the family and youngsters will pick up kneeboarding very quickly and have great fun, (wakeboarding will take a lot more patience!!)
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Thanks. Will look that up. Keep the opinions coming.
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In California (I think every state has slightly different regs), you are required to have an adult spotter/flagman in addition to the pilot. Seems reasonable to me, as it's tough to keep an eye on the tube/skier/whatever and on where you're going (especially with the possibility of other skiers down in the water ahead.)

I'm not all that hot on towing things, but have done it on occasion (though I've got a few more ponies than you do.) It will likely take a bit of experimentation to figure out what you can and can't do with your setup (hard turns while towing eats up a lot of energy, for instance.)

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Yes, I forgot about the momentum on hard turns. I don't think I'll be doing too many tight turns as its a lot to handle with a tiller. I'm just trying to find out what others have had success with so I don't waste too much money buying toys that won't work.

I can imagine myself trying to turn tight to throw them out of the ringo, but end up throwing myself out!

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Some issues,

The only way you could possibly pull off a transom or around the corners would be if glued parts has lost their bonding properties due to age, excessive sun or by running a under inflated sib constantly.

Will need a Y tow rope with a cork after engine to avoid rope entanglements on prop, once mate is on the water will need to stretch tight the line against sib and start throttling evenly and gradually to full wot if you like. That way will avoid unwanted stress on transom and toy rings.

Be aware that if you use a Y tow rope in close turns rope could end abrading end tubes, will need to reinforce end tubes on that particular rub portion which will need to be determined by water experimentation with pvc/hypalon fabric patch to avoid direct rub issues against tubes. Usually you use a tow bar bolted against rib's floor, but not on a sib.

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On the sib I used to put a rope around the front eyes, down the sides and then fixed to an A shape behind the boat to attach teh tow rope to.

I found this put no strain on the transom and was easy to control.
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you wont rip the transom off as the rope is pulling against the very thing that is pushing the boat along. i would say get a donut first and play with that. theres is loads of fun to be had but there is a definite technique to cornering as the drag wants to keep the boat going in a straight line. learn to get a pendulum effect going and youve cracked it - get the donut skimming sideways, then accelerate in the direction you want to go. i used to have a yam 360s with a 25 on the back and managed the donut no problem, though i doubt it would have got a skier up too well.
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Towed a variety of toys with a Zodiac Futura and a HonWave T40. Attach the rope to the transom with a bridle (buy a proper one and floating rope to minimise chances of fouling prop).

Always carry a spotter and use your tiller extension if it gives you decent control and dont overestimate the capabilities of your sib.

I would only buy a single ringo (the doubles take a huge amount of power to get them on the plane) then kneeboarding is probably the easiest thing to learn. Waterskiing and wakeboarding both require really good technique to get out of the water when you only have a small engine, but with practice your boat should tow kids fairly easily (upto about 50kg ish).

I was really lucky as a kid and spent holidays on Windermere being dragged behind a variety of tournament ski boats on pretty much anything we could get our hands on, but I honestly think my kids had more fun playing behind the Futura on Ullswater than I ever did behind a Mastercraft.
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