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08 August 2010, 15:50
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speed
HI guys ,I have a 4.7 metre seapro inflatable with a 30hp four stroke as I dont own a GPS yet I was wondering what sort of speed I should be getting,say with two adults on a calm sea.ThankyouMark Mckee
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09 August 2010, 18:49
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Country: Other
Town: Lima-Peru
Boat name: Nautile
Make: Sea Rider Boats
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 18 /30 HP
Join Date: Sep 2007
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Originally Posted by mark mckee
HI guys ,I have a 4.7 metre seapro inflatable with a 30hp four stroke as I dont own a GPS yet I was wondering what sort of speed I should be getting,say with two adults on a calm sea.ThankyouMark Mckee
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At least 60 Km/Hr
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09 August 2010, 19:21
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Linlithgow
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: 2 stroke YAM 20 HP
MMSI: 235089819
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Posts: 5,855
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locozodiac
At least 60 Km/Hr
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that sounds a bit ambitious to me.
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09 August 2010, 19:26
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Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
Length: 8m +
Engine: twin 225Opti/50hp 2t
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Posts: 2,603
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Polwart
that sounds a bit ambitious to me.
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Me too, I'm not a sib expert but would've thought 25 knots at the very most?
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10 August 2010, 13:36
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Country: UK - England
Make: Tohatsu
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu MFS20
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I would think 25 knots would be reasonable. I used to get 19 off an 18 hp Evinrude fitted to a 4.5m Avon Sportboat.
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10 August 2010, 19:11
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Lima-Peru
Boat name: Nautile
Make: Sea Rider Boats
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 18 /30 HP
Join Date: Sep 2007
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Some numbers
My 380 sib inflated with gauge to 3.5 PSI, keel included with 120 KG (sib & Tohatsu 18 HP, 2 strokes weight), with another 130 KG between 2 mates, 3 gallons of pure unleaded no alcohol 95 octane gasoline giving 250 Kg in total weight, with perfectly balanced sib/mates & engine with proper transom height and well trimmed on a 1 Km full throttle run with no wind and plain sea conditions marked 39.2 Km/Hr on the GPS. My max rpm at wot were 5500, 300 off from max which is 5800, so if going for a 1 pitch less definitely will pass 40 Km/Hr
A Tohatsu 30 HP, 2 strokes on a 370 Rib (150Kg) with same mates and gas, giving a total weight of 280 Kg tested same way, was 62.0 Km/Hr and the engine used had only 5 hours on it while undergoing break in period.
Both engines were factory re tuned as timing advance and butterfly max opening at wot were slightly off from ideal.
A 470 sib with a 4 T / 30 HP engine that weights no more than 150 Kg, (90 + 60) add 2 normal mates and that configuration well inflated and trimmed should give at least 55 Km/Hr, if not, engine is not fine tuned, horrible water conditions or maybe using crappy BP fuels.
1 Knot = 1.7 Km so on both tests:
380 (18Hp) 39,2 Km/Hr or 23.05 Knots
370 (40Hp) 62.0 Km/Hr or 36.47 Knots
Check pic, next time outting with a Tootsie 30 Hp and a 370 rib will keep data for those non believers.
In excelent conditions, these speeds are possible, a guy is doing 102 Km on a 4.00 Mt Cat Hull sib with a 2T/50 Totatsu
Happy Boating
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10 August 2010, 19:37
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Member
Country: Canada
Town: Winnipeg
Make: Gemini Dive 470
Length: 4m +
Engine: 40hp Yamaha 2 str
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With minimal load, trimmed out properly, maybe 45-50 km/h
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10 August 2010, 20:07
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Linlithgow
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: 2 stroke YAM 20 HP
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locozodiac
with another 130 KG between 2 mates, 3 gallons of pure unleaded
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your friends are small. There are people on here who weight that on their own!
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A 470 sib with a 4 T / 30 HP engine that weights no more than 150 Kg, (90 + 60)
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firstly I think you are being optimistic with the weight a SeaPro 470 apparently weighs 125 Kg, and depending on the model a 30HP 4str could be nearer 80 kg. Combined with a couple of well fed northern irish lads you might have underestimated the weight of the boat by 100kg or more.
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that configuration well inflated and trimmed should give at least 55 Km/Hr
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I think if you put 30 HP (with no extra weight) on your 3.8m boat you might get there, but the boat is nearly double the weight and a metre longer.
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10 August 2010, 21:06
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
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Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yama ..yeeha 75
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Polwart
I think if you put 30 HP (with no extra weight) on your 3.8m boat you might get there, but the boat is nearly double the weight and a metre longer.
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Indeed ... and even 40 Kmh on a SIB in any case, is a boat I'm not sure I'd want to be on if my engine snagged a pot rope, or hit an unexpected wash
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10 August 2010, 21:27
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Member
Country: Finland
Town: Helsinki
Boat name: Aerotec 420/SR 5.4
Make: Bombard/Avon
Length: 4m +
Engine: Toh 3,5 Yam 90/2S
Join Date: Oct 2009
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I think there is a some difference between SIBs and RIBs regarding speed. This especially when loaded. SIBs have less efficient hull shape, as it flex much more. My Aerotec goes 26 knots when single +normal fuel and safetygear(optimal conditions). With 2 persons onbord, otherwise same, aprox 22 knots, a dramatic drop in speed. Last weekend did a 60 nm trip with 3 persons( but light ones) 50 l fuel + camping gears and food but still managed close to 20 knots. If that boat would have a hard hull, sure it would goes faster than as a SIB, despite increased weight.
Sibs tends to go rather easily 20-22 knots, but faster than that the drag increases. So my slightly pessimistic guess is 22-23 knots for the seapro inflatable with a 30hp+2 crew.
Good luck with sea trials.
One NM/Knot is 1.8520 KM, at least that was the figures I used in school ?
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