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14 March 2010, 03:34
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Solvents - acetone vs. toluene for hypalon repair
What do the repair pros on this site think about using acetone instead of toluene for cleaning hypalon prior to repair?
Toluene is such nasty stuff, I'd like to avoid it as much as possible. I'd still use it where absolutely required, such as cleaning up excess glue or as a thinner, but for routine cleaning of the surface prior to roughing it up I was wondering if acetone could be used instead.
Acetone isn't the type of solvent to take a bath in either, but it's much less toxic than toluene. Just wondering if it can be used as a substitute for toluene sometimes.
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14 March 2010, 07:49
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wipe a section of tube with both of them and see what's on the rag afterwards, you should have your answer
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14 March 2010, 08:33
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Proper Hypalon glue thinner (Toulene) is by far the most effective at removing dirt and grime and prepping the surface to take glue.
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14 March 2010, 15:42
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Hi,
Use the same care while using either.
Play it safe by using gloves and a respirator.
When you're done, properly dispose everything.
Bill
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14 March 2010, 16:44
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Acetone flashes off much faster than tolulene. While it might clean up the hypalon okay it doesn't do a very good job of surface prep. If you are doing the proper three applications of solvent to prep the surface you are not going to get the same result with acetone. A hypalon surface that has had three applications of tolulene does not feel the same as one with three acetone wipes. For any serious repair on structural or load bearing surfaces or accesories you will get a better bond with Tolulene.
If you need proper instructons look at this site.
http://www.shipstore.com/SS/HTML/INFO/INFOHYPNEO.html
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14 March 2010, 16:59
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i dont use either and never had any problems with patches or seams parting or lifting ,,i just abrade the surface lightly with a wire brush or grit paper and then use 2 pack glue .i tryed using acetone once but it dident seem to have much effect ,,we have litres of the stuff as my wife and girls use gallons of acetone when they remove their false nails , they warm it up and dip their finger tips to remove the acrylic nails.
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14 March 2010, 18:22
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Same here, never had any trouble with any of the repairs I've done, I usually clean the area with acetone first then apply the glue.
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15 March 2010, 15:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m chappelow
i tryed using acetone once but it dident seem to have much effect ,,we have litres of the stuff as my wife and girls use gallons of acetone when they remove their false nails , they warm it up and dip their finger tips to remove the acrylic nails.
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I hope you have a 55 gallon drum of skin moisturizer as well...
jky
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15 March 2010, 15:53
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Not really much safer than toluene, but easier to come by, MEK is available at most hardware stores (as opposed to Toluene, which, in California, I have only found at certain Ace Hardware Stores.) Both MEK and Toluene are more aggressive than acetone.
jky
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15 March 2010, 17:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jyasaki
I hope you have a 55 gallon drum of skin moisturizer as well...
jky
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They use just normal hand cream,,,after ,,,they get the 100% acetone in 1 ltre bottles from acylic nail wholesalers.,they put some acetone in a small dish and then place that in another dish of hot water to warm it up ,cover with a towel to stop fumes then dip finger tips in to remove the acrylic nails for 5/6 mins ,they have been doing it for years ,with no effects as yet ,lol
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