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Old 02 November 2006, 10:33   #51
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Very sage advice. I test drove an airdeck this summer in a mild chop and found all of the floor flex to give a 'feel' that I did not like at all, but that is simply personal taste. Without question, an airdeck would be extremely limiting as to what sort of cargo you can put in the boat. I think the only benefit an airdeck can offer is weight savings, but then again how much of an issue is weight with a SIB that's 14' or less? Even the heavier 14' SIBs dont go beyond 240 lbs - and when you separate out the floorboards, the fabric-transom piece is only about 150 lbs.
Light Wieght was the reason for buying and wieght was the reason for selling .

Even the honda at about 55 kg and the motor the same was too heavy to be really portable . I ended up with it all on a trailer therefore there was no point at all owning it instead of a Rib.

Pumping it up at the slipway and then fitting the motor etc even with the best electric pump was a chore and even worse at the end of a day when you were tired and beaten up by the SIB. It needed 3 adults to carry it , a transit or very large estate to transport it , an even 2 to push it on a launching trolley .

The car top idea is the best , with an extra wide roofrack , but still near impossible alone .


As for the comments about the zodiac and pvc etc , i have seen a quite a few older ones about and the PVC seems to be just as hard wearing as hypalon and it hasn't faded . Maybe there are some pvc boats that are poorly made ,as there are Hypalon , but Zodiac doesn't seem to be one of them .
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Old 02 November 2006, 12:30   #52
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By using it hard I don't mean divers etc, more the sea conditions and beaching it.

Doesn't sound to good bout the 430 but i'm not sure if the Honda will be in the price bracket.
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Old 02 November 2006, 14:21   #53
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Gray the Honda is cheaper , mine was on offer for 840 .

As for beaching they have a tough rubber protection on the keel and more at the back end ,
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Old 02 November 2006, 22:33   #54
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As for the comments about the zodiac and pvc etc , i have seen a quite a few older ones about and the PVC seems to be just as hard wearing as hypalon and it hasn't faded . Maybe there are some pvc boats that are poorly made ,as there are Hypalon , but Zodiac doesn't seem to be one of them .

Maybe they have different build standards for the Euro market.
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Old 03 November 2006, 03:11   #55
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Maybe they have different build standards for the Euro market.
This was our Zodiac which we sold last year, simply because we wanted family trips, and more sea action! The zodiac we had was very well made, and being virtualy brand new (had only 4 hours from new) was great for lakes and the like. Did take it out of hartlepool, the rush was superb, but soon got tired of hanging on for dear life. Comfortable they aint! Ours was a 4.2 with a 30 2 stroke mariner. Got about 23mph with 25l and 3 big fellars.
Because we trailered it everywhere anyway, we ended up getting the Rib.
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Old 03 November 2006, 09:37   #56
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Nice looking boat. Is that a Mark IIc classic/touring ? Will post up some pictures of my Mark II Grand Raid when it arrives over the next few days.
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Yes, its the touring mark2c. If you notice, we added a bit more funcionality by putting on the a-frame and the electronics box under the bench seat. It felt a lot safer with them! And they`re so frugal! All day on a lake and you still had change from a 25 l tank! Think i might go find the owner and buy it back..... Look forward to the pics!

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has anyone had any experiance with these "c-sport" inflatables?
http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F120861/
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Old 04 November 2006, 12:49   #59
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I was looking at one from the same seller about a year ago.

I was attracted by the bright colours (Yellow) and the price.

I asked the seller what brand they were and they said they import them (Probably from asia). They didn't have a brand name when I looked.

That one looks very similar the old style YAM range.

If you look on ebay theres similar imported inflatables. I decided to go for a more well known brand.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/new-inflatable...QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-ULYZ-270-D...QQcmdZViewItem
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Old 25 November 2006, 02:27   #60
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Yes, its the touring mark2c. If you notice, we added a bit more funcionality by putting on the a-frame and the electronics box under the bench seat. It felt a lot safer with them! And they`re so frugal! All day on a lake and you still had change from a 25 l tank! Think i might go find the owner and buy it back..... Look forward to the pics!

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Well I received the 1982 Grand Raid Mark II mentioned earlier, and finally got around inflating the main sponsons in my basement this evening. I didn't put the aluminum floor boards in as I was more concerned about checking out the condition of the fabric. Overall the fabric condition is excellent. Minor things there are a couple of spots along the keel abrasion strip that need regluing, as do a couple of small spots along the side rub straking, and a cone overlapping strip needs to be cleaned up. A couple of the bigger jobs I need t do is one side of the thrust board needs regluing, and the inflatable keel tube is completely loose from the floor fabric. The transom is absolutely solid & the floor boards are in perfect condition. For about $ 1200 CDN, once shipping was factored in, (less than 600 British Pounds) I can't complain.
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