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Old 01 November 2006, 12:37   #41
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I agree the ideal lump is probably a 60HP 2stroke Yam, but being a poor student an economical 4stroker appeals to me. My 70HP Tohatsu drinks like George Best when you give it some beans.
When you prop an sr4 right with a 50 on it it'll chinewalk past 40mph and will hit 40 knots (mine does-just ). To keep a respectable speed (25-30 knots) it doesn't burn much fuel either. They aren't heavy boats.
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Old 01 November 2006, 12:43   #42
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Apart from boats and outboards / ebay wheres good to look for sibs? Anyone got web sites of places selling sibs at good prices.

Looking like i'll have 2500 max to spend on it and want a decent motor with it.

Something like this http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/SIM460/ would be ideal. Like the idea of it being heavy duty with the wear patches on the tubes and has a good size engine. Really need something with a bit of 'get up and go' in it!
This doesn't come with a motor but at about half of your total budget, this could be a great deal on one of the most well made SIBs available anywhere. A 40 hp motor would be ideal with this one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1997-...QQcmdZViewItem
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Old 01 November 2006, 13:18   #43
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Why do you think its a better boat?

All: If you had 2500 what would sib/engine would you get?

I would buy the Honda 3.8 again but probably with a 25 2 stroke .

Bridger marine in Exeter had both boats in stock blown up , I put them both on the floor and compared them .

The Quicksilver was heavier duty and heavier than the honda so if you want something to use really hard then it could be better .

The Honda is really well made and plenty tough enough for family use .
The Honda had larger tubes and a higher bow so I felt it would give a dryer ride .

The Inflatable floor is what made the honda best , its a sharkskin finish and takes a higher pressure with a much deeper V making the boat feel more rigid , it also extends beyond the transom giving a kind of planing pad and more lift and bouyancy at the stern.

I could just deflate the honda on my own and lift it in the van the quicksilver felt heavier
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Old 01 November 2006, 13:35   #44
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Plus you can't pack up a SR4 like you can a sib!

I'd definately prefer to see something before I bought it and travelling to the states really isn't an option!

Thanks Ian, noted.
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Old 01 November 2006, 13:53   #45
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I'd definately prefer to see something before I bought it and travelling to the states really isn't an option!
Understandable. I'm somewhat tempted by this, but since I've already purchased 2 SIBs in the last 3 months (1 new 1 used), I'd better not. New FC 470s retail for about $ 20 000 U.S.
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The Quicksilver was heavier duty and heavier than the honda so if you want something to use really hard then it could be better .

The Honda is really well made and plenty tough enough for family use .
I won't be using it for family use, intention is to use it fairly hard so maybe the heavier duty one may be more suited.

The engine comes with a new prop, fuel line and fuel tank. There are currently 6 in stock and would get to pick one myself.

The honda would be a more expensive option and may well be more than the budget.
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Gray when you say use it hard I guess you mean lots of heavy load like divers kit.
If you mean hard as in performance and handling then the Honda is the boat .

To be honest I wouldn't buy any inflatable floor for diving or heavy load carrying . Apart from the risk of puncturing the floor , heavy objects like diving bottles would be bounced about so much they would injure all the paople aboard and there is no real way to tie things like this down ,

You need a solid floor by the sounds of it
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quicksilver 3.8 hd

Hi I had the misfortune to own from new a hd quicksilver 430.
I hated it, the fabric was poor, the weight was excessive, the floor kinked with only a 9.9 4 stroke on it, the floor delaminated slightly after 1 month,the towing points tore slightly after only 2 uses and only after they were used to attach to front of trailer along with 3 ratchets,the transom bailer clogs and is too fine. In short it was oversold and under built.

SOLD IT AS SOON AS I COULD.

HAVE NOW GOT PLANS TO GET A NORMAL QUICKSILVER FROM THE DEALER AS THEY ARE EXCELLENT, A 3.4 AIRDECK IS THE NEXT PURCHASE!!!
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Old 01 November 2006, 20:06   #49
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To be honest I wouldn't buy any inflatable floor for diving or heavy load carrying . Apart from the risk of puncturing the floor , heavy objects like diving bottles would be bounced about so much they would injure all the paople aboard and there is no real way to tie things like this down ,
Very sage advice. I test drove an airdeck this summer in a mild chop and found all of the floor flex to give a 'feel' that I did not like at all, but that is simply personal taste. Without question, an airdeck would be extremely limiting as to what sort of cargo you can put in the boat. I think the only benefit an airdeck can offer is weight savings, but then again how much of an issue is weight with a SIB that's 14' or less? Even the heavier 14' SIBs dont go beyond 240 lbs - and when you separate out the floorboards, the fabric-transom piece is only about 150 lbs.
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Hi I had the misfortune to own from new a hd quicksilver 430.
I hated it, the fabric was poor, the weight was excessive, the floor kinked with only a 9.9 4 stroke on it, the floor delaminated slightly after 1 month,the towing points tore slightly after only 2 uses and only after they were used to attach to front of trailer along with 3 ratchets,the transom bailer clogs and is too fine. In short it was oversold and under built.

SOLD IT AS SOON AS I COULD.

HAVE NOW GOT PLANS TO GET A NORMAL QUICKSILVER FROM THE DEALER AS THEY ARE EXCELLENT, A 3.4 AIRDECK IS THE NEXT PURCHASE!!!
Sorry about to hear about the ordeal with your boat. I don't have any experience with the quicksilver line, but it does seem strange that the so called 'heavy duty' line falls apart easily while the regular line is much more durable.

Often the specific model is much more important than the brand name. Zodiacs are that way. At one time, all of their SIBs they were quite well built, but now its only their military-professional SIBs (Grand Raid, FC, & HD) that will hold up to hard use. Their regular lines made with PVC have an extremely short life expectancy.
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