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Old 30 October 2006, 12:00   #21
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the searider is bl**dy thirsty!
What size searider is it?
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Old 30 October 2006, 12:06   #22
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It says 5m + in his profile so a 5.4 mabye (not an expert on seariders so don't know all the models)

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Old 30 October 2006, 12:15   #23
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yup
5.4 ex mod.
its been great (any rib that is 20years old and has had the proverbial s*it kicked out of it by the rn that has no patches and still works is great!)
its just too big really
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Old 30 October 2006, 12:29   #24
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You have a PM rugrat.
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Old 30 October 2006, 13:50   #25
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prairie tuber,
remember we are talking about ENGLISH pounds.
i could get a perfectly adequate sib for below 1k.

anyway, the main reason for wanting to convert to a sib is accessability.
i live in a small house with no space to keep a rib, at the moment its sitting on its mooring with a buggered engine which i can do nothing about.
i just want something to stick on the roofrack that i can keep in my shed.
also the searider is bl**dy thirsty! like codprawn said his honda uses less than his strimmer, even if it is the wrong engine!
also twitchy stearing, feeling like its going 100mph.....its a boat not an armchair!
thanks for the replies.
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I didn't mean to be offensive about the 1k comment. Currently 1000 British pounds = $ 2126.89 CAN. The SIB market in Britain may be very different than in Canada, but here, any SIBs that sell new for under $ 2200 are extremely flimsy and use suspect fabric. This is why I believe you can get more bang for your buck if you can snag a higher end used one if it is in good condition.

I understand the accessability and storage isssues completely which is why I am a big SIB fan. There are alot of lakes (some very large ones) here in Manitoba that you can only access by foot or possibly with a 4x4 where there is absolutely no way to pull a boat trailer through. With a SIB you can attach launching wheels (sturdy ones) and pull it over short portage trails, or with longer portage trails (over a mile), fold it up and throw it on a hand-pull cart.

Furthermore a well built SIB is every bit as rugged as a quality RIB, of course it wont be nearly as comfortable in choppy conditions, but is capable nonetheless. Additionally, a well built SIB will be typically have a higher payload rating than a RIB of the same length.

My poor 30 year old hypalon zodiac mark I (11') finally gave up the ghost this summer after alot of abuse. The first 10 years as an RCMP boat, the last 20 from myself. Tough little boat but way too small for 2 people with gear to be anything close to comfortable

I have since ordered a Gemini Dive 470 (a bigger version of the surf 420 - which is basically a round nosed zapcat) made from Orca 866 fabric (1670 dtx hypalon) and I expect this boat will outlast me. I test drove one this summer and the the tunnel hull design on these boats give an amazing advantage in ride over the traditional inflatable V keel design. It won't be ready for a while yet. This boat will have room for an ATV and gear.

Last week I bought a 1982 Zodiac Grand Raid Mark II (13'9" 940 dtx hypalon) on ebay which apparently is in very good condition (hasn't arrived yet) for $ 925 CAN (+ $ 200 for shipping from Vancouver to Winnipeg). I should have posession of it later this week. I'll be using a 25 hp merc 2 stroke with it (same motor I used with the Mark I) which will fly with light loads.

I'm sure that you'll find the 15 hp will work great with a SIB under 14' if the loads are reasonably light. Good luck with your search & please post up what you come up with.
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Old 30 October 2006, 14:03   #26
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also twitchy stearing, feeling like its going 100mph.....its a boat not an armchair!

Exactly!

SIBS are kinda like a cork with power! Which is a huge part of their charm (but might not appeal to everyone).
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Old 30 October 2006, 14:49   #27
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What sort of speed could you expect from this? http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/SIM460/

Also, how well would this size of sib/engine cope with the solent?

Is it good value for money?
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Old 30 October 2006, 15:04   #28
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I rekon about 25-28 kts based on other sib speeds i have heard. I rekon it would cope with most conditions in the solent but it can get uncomfortable on longer trips if weather is bad.

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Old 30 October 2006, 16:57   #29
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As a guide my honda 3.8 with honda 20 did 18knts flat out with 3 people aboard , it would cruise easy at 15 all day on a sniff of fuel.

Infaltable floors seem to hit a wall and the honda felt like it would need lots more power to push it much faster .
Steering wasn't twitchy at all

I reckon the 25 mariner may be a better motor for a sib as its the same wieght as the 20 4 stroke but with more power and they us so little fuel its not really worth worrying about economy .

I think the beach rescue sibs use 30 hp
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Old 30 October 2006, 17:06   #30
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What sort of speed could you expect from this? http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/SIM460/

Also, how well would this size of sib/engine cope with the solent?

Is it good value for money?
I reckon that's pretty good value if the engine is ok - they give it a 1yr guarantee so it should be fine.

As to speed I also think prob 26kts ish with a light load.

Will cope with the solent fine - you just have to keep the speed down in a chop.
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