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Old 07 June 2016, 10:21   #21
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Yep it's just for self and Mrs Fenlander Gurnard... well plus medium dog... with the possibility if one teen wanted to join us she can get a tent and just use our "facilities".
Like boats, vans always seem to leave people wondering if a bigger one would be better, or a smaller one would be more flexible and easier to just jump in and go!

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So then we wondered if the motorhome which would cost around the same as a 30ft boat would enable us to get places in a very flexible way with the SIB inside and ready to go whenever and wherever.
I sometimes drift into dreamland in much the same way. However a quick wander round the inside of a Fisher 30 or similar soon brings me back to my senses. Dark, damp and cramped in most cases.

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Then we wondered about a sub 6m RIB to extend our range with greater safety but I don't want to tow.
Beware a greater range just means you will be further from the expensive van you have just bought! Wondering why you don't want to tow? It can be a PITA sometimes, but so can assembling a boat (which you are now hoping to do even more often!).

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Think as well if you really want a shower - pretty useless and a PITA in many compact campers.
Beware there is a gender split on the importance of such creature comforts!

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I assume a SIB and outboard plus kit would all easily stow in a motorhome and we'd have cup of tea, shower etc all to hand.
I know quite a few mountain bikey types who have converted vans for this sort of thing. Insulation should not be overlooked unless you only want to use it June-Sept! Most have beds etc but have discovered that unless they are very lucky* they only use them on their own. In fact one has recently kitted out a new van with no bed, just small kitchen, toilet and shower. Another is talking about doing the same as its over 2 years since he actually slept in it.


* of course your definition of luck may be escaping the wife!
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Old 07 June 2016, 10:29   #22
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We looked at all the motorhomes and conversions, but couldn't find anything that suited our needs or wallet, so I built my own.



The hardest part is getting the right van, after a lot of research I decided a long wheelbase hightop X250 Boxer/Ducato/Relay would be best for what I wanted. They are the widest vans in their class so being under 6ft tall we can sleep crosswise. I ended up buying a Citroen Relay and a write off Baily Pageant caravan for parts and made a comfortable 3 berth, with all the amenities we need. Total cost in 2011 for an 08 van, caravan, windows and other bits, was a shade over 10k. Amount of fun and freedom we've had, priceless.
We've been all over Europe in it, but now my daugher is at Uni I've altered the back to accomodate a SIB, that's why I bought the F-rib.

Looks you made a good job.... and Also like a lot of Fun!..
Good Budget too!!
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Old 07 June 2016, 15:34   #23
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I have a bit of practical experience of larger motorhomes and the downside of anything larger than a VW/transit is parking, to big/tall for carparks, motorhomes often not allowed in lorry/bus spaces= parking headaches.

LWB low roof t4/t5 camper would be my prefered size/vehicle.
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Old 07 June 2016, 16:34   #24
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Poly some very good points.

>>Fisher 30<<<

Funnily enough a Colvic motor sailer around 28ft was dad's last sea boat. Like this in the same green and superbly finished.... http://www.western-horizon.co.uk/boat_images/4940.jpg

<<< why you don't want to tow?>>>

For all the negatives that many other folks don't mind... towed loads over the years (horses mostly but boats too) and don't want to again.

<<<assembling a boat (which you are now hoping to do even more often!).>>>

Yes you're right... if touring then unless we find a secure site and base ourselves there for a while it will be a daily inflate.

<<<escaping the wife!>>>

Sounds cheesy but luckily she is a true partner in all this and enjoys all these varied adventures.

<<<2 years since he actually slept in it.>>>

That's why the Hymer permanent high up double appeals. So many of the other van sized motorhomes have beds that when folded out prevented you from accessing the fridge/toilet or blocked the floor etc.
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Day off work today David and we're spending the day trawling the three local motorhome dealers - not to buy but just to see what might work for a long summer trip as mentioned earlier. Just no way I think the old VW T5/6 is going to work with two adults + 9 yr old + 13 yr old and a load of summer holiday clutter. We got away with it BITD with the two of us in our early 20's and that was a hightop T3.

Going back on my buy/sell as just cannot do with all that hassle so might hire something like this, 650 week is pretty fair, going rate for a newish VW Cali is 800 week:

Motorhome hire holidays - Hymers - August 24th - 31st 4 berth for only 650 ! | eBay

Although if I was buying to keep as a general vehicle and occasional SIB use I would still go pop top T4/5 - everyday usage as noted earlier overides everything and anything bigger is a PITA. You can pick up a 2007/8 official VW California for under 30k - silly money but it will sell on for much the same. 50 - 60k new for a nicely specced one.
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brownhills motor homes near me at Newark one of the biggest also lowdham near Nottingham for info.

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You can pick up a 2007/8 official VW California for under 30k - silly money but it will sell on for much the same. 50 - 60k new for a nicely specced one.
I'm guessing there is a seasonality to them, i.e. you might be stuck with it until spring 2017 and then take a year's depreciation rather than a few months?

I am not buying a camper, I am not buying a camper, I am not buying a camper... sneaks off to eBay just to look
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Old 08 June 2016, 04:47   #28
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Not with VW T5 Cali's - you won't get stuck with one...
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This is what Fenlander "needs"

VW Cali Camper
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