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Old 22 April 2012, 03:24   #41
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Avon Skin So Soft, did me well and no hazardous chemicals on the skin, however my o/h advises me that Avon have changed the recepie so can't guarantee it's potency any more.
Avon never did guarantee midge protection with Skin so Soft. All scientific surveys of midge repellants have come to the conclusion that the ONLY thing that actually works is the chemical N-Diethyl-meta-toluamide, known commonly as Deet.

There is apparently a lot of anecdotal evidence of SsS working but this is not the case in any actual scientific studies which show that SsS has no actual effect on the midgies!

When purchasing a midge repellant the higher the Deet content the more effective the product. Personally I also use a 'net' over a brimmed hat. You will see most outdoor workmen, such as BT and the Hydro wearing them when they are working in the 'season' up in the Highlands.

Anyway apart from that, thank you for sharing your trip with us TomKat. If you are up north of Inverness again please let me know and perhaps I can show you a few great SIB areas.

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There is apparently a lot of anecdotal evidence of SsS working but this is not the case in any actual scientific studies which show that SsS has no actual effect on the midgies!
Keith - I thought the suggestion was SSS stopped biting rather than repelled them? That may make scientific study harder as getting volunteers to be bitten might be tricky! Certainly my anecdotal evidence of SSS has been that it doesn't repel them but it seems to reduce/stop bites.
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As far as I understand it some people get bitten more than others (I'm one of those people that the midges love and my wife is one that they avoid!) and the anecdotal evidence of SSS working comes from the category of people that are not naturally attractive to the midgies in any case!

The SSS midgie thing is one of those urban myth memes that has self perpetuated over the past few decades and of course Avon didn't do anything to stop it!

Take a look here, an American point of view but still valid for midgies: snopes.com: Mosquito Repel Lore

As I am out and about regularly up here in the Highlands and particularly on the West Coast believe me I take a great interest in the subject!

Every scientific study says the same - Deet.

But if SSS seems to work for you then I'm sure Avon will keep on selling it and the worst thing that can happen is that you get soft skin.

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Old 22 April 2012, 06:38   #44
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Keith, have you tried sss, just wondering, not been following this topic.
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Keith - I thought the suggestion was SSS stopped biting rather than repelled them? That may make scientific study harder as getting volunteers to be bitten might be tricky! Certainly my anecdotal evidence of SSS has been that it doesn't repel them but it seems to reduce/stop bites.
As one is in Argyll reularly and over many years has suffered at the hands of the little bu**ers I will PLUS ONE with you Neil. I think its true to say they do not repell but they certainly do noy bite which is okay by me and my so soft skin!
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another +1 for sss from me. sss is no myth!

Have 'tested' sss every year in the highlands/west coast vigorously since it first came out. Huge black clouds of them on Rannoch Moor included. It in NO WAY repels the midgies - as already mentioned - but they simply cannot bite once they land on it, you can watch them, they go upside down and all sorts of weird stuff. I have looked at this scientifically, as i am a scientist. If you have a layer of SsS on - they can't bite you, if you dont - they can. I dont know about the latest change in recipe but the old stuff provides a physical barrier on the skin.

I dont go anywhere without my very valuable midgie net though. Basically all you need for camping in Scotland plus, obviously, a full bottle of Isley firewater.
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Here is a pic from our field testing of skin so soft in rannoch moor in aug 2008.

This is photo of an uncovered arm, around 10minutes exposure = over 200 bites on one arm.

The other arm, covered in sss, showed no new bites, ZERO new bites. none. impressive.

Also a pic of our grill showing that heat and smoke didnt really deter them either. Only things i know that actually deter them are Deet and wind (not farty pops).
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In my younger days I used to follow the British rally championship and can remember spectators having to leave a stage in the Galloway forest due to the midges
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In my younger days I used to follow the British rally championship and can remember spectators having to leave a stage in the Galloway forest due to the midges
Yup....the notorious Glentrool midges are some of the worst I have ever encountered. :\ The late cold snap this year should help keep the numbers down though I believe.
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Yup....the notorious Glentrool midges are some of the worst I have ever encountered. :\ The late cold snap this year should help keep the numbers down though I believe.
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