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Old 04 November 2015, 16:05   #21
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Okey Dokey, here I am, fresh as a daisy.

First port of call RYA This is general info regarding foreign use.
Here is specific info regarding France This is also important: Registration

When you've ploughed your way through that lot, here's what it boils down to. France is full of French & everyone is a bureaucrat If you are out of the way, chances are you will be left alone. If you frequent busy areas, chances are you will cross swords with at least 1 of the French maritime agencies & there are lots of 'em Navy (spotty 12 year olds with guns), Douane (customs, fat men with guns) Affaire Maritime (sort of fisheries protection with guns, who have a chip because they really wanted to be Gendarmes but failed the entry test), Gendarme Maritime (marine police with guns) Do you see the theme We've been boarded several times in the 20odd years we've been going out there, the first time I nearly sh4t meself (Douane, fat men with guns) We had no paper work, no flag, couldn't prove that we were a British registered vessel ('cos we weren't), so they made us go back inshore & stay within the 5 mile limit that applies to small French boats. I came home, joined the RYA, got a bollocking off the then cruising secretary who then spent time helping me get things in order. So here's what I take:-

ICC, not actually required in France but it doesn't hurt.
Insurance, make sure it covers you in France.
SSR, absolutely necessary along with a red ensign, it keeps the French away.
Radio/OFCOM paperwork if VHF etc fitted.
Short Range VHF/DSC Cert.
Original purchase invoice for boat, trailer, electronics showing VAT paid.
Passports.
I don't carry flares, if you do, they MUST be in date. Carrying out of date flares in France is punishable with a fine.

Enjoy, it really is a great country

Click on the RYA links above, no need to log in or register.


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Old 04 November 2015, 16:18   #22
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Coastal Waters: there is no specific requirement for evidence of competence other than that stipulated by the vessel’s flag state. It is recommended (particularly in the Mediterranean) that you carry any certificates you have with you, as we very occasionally hear rumours that a certificate has been requested.
Inland Waters: evidence of competence is required for most inland waters unless the boat is less than 5m in length and is not capable of more than 11 knots (20kph). France has not adopted Resolution 40 however, the ICC is still recommended for a UK flagged boat as an ICC with the inland category validated demonstrates that the holder has sufficient knowledge of the traffic regulations applicable on inland waters, in particular the CEVNI.
The ICC may not be sufficient for vessels over 20m in length.
French translations of many RYA certificates and their related course syllabus are available from the RYA website. www.rya.org.uk/go/translations
The first obstacle to navigation for seagoing ships is often where inland waters begin. This can be a lock, a bridge or a tidal barrage. On smaller rivers, however the limit of the inland waters is taken to be the mouth. There are of course exceptions so if in doubt check with the local Harbour Master.
You must carry onboard
A copy of the CEVNI regulations (when visiting French inland waters).
ATIS and the RAINWAT Agreement
France is a signatory to the Rainwat Agreement, therefore an ATIS enabled VHF is required for the inland waterways of France.
Holding Tanks
French law requires that as of 1 January 2008 new vessels, whether French or foreign flagged, are fitted with a treatment system or retention tank for black water if they wish to have access to French ports, moorings and anchorages.
Users of older vessels which are not equipped with treatment systems or holding tanks for black water are, like all other pleasure yacht users, required to comply with the rules which prohibit discharge in ports and designated anchoring spots. They must therefore use shore toilets.
How these rules are to be applied or enforced is not very clear but it is anticipated that guidelines or a further law defining the extent and manner of application and any sanctions will be issued in the future.
In principal it is forbidden to flush toilets into canals and rivers, but as pump out facilities are few and far between until now discreet overboard discharging has been tolerated, this may of course change.
Other
Details of closures on the French Canals and the cost of the Vignette (the recreational licence requried by boats navigating the French VNF waterways) can be found on the VNF website (see link).

Credit cards at fuel pumps in France:

Members have previously reported problems they have encountered when trying to obtain fuel in France using a credit card.

The most common difficulty is in trying to get fuel at unattended, automatic fuel pumps, where UK credit cards don't always work. This is a retailer-related problem that affects all UK credit cards used in France; indeed, many such fuel pumps only take the carte bleu card, available to French residents only.

Unfortunately, and while there is no reason why UK chip and PIN cards should not to be accepted at such pumps, there is no way to resolve this unless and until French retailers review their policy. The solution, less convenient but usually cheaper, is to carry a couple of jerry cans and be prepared to fill up from a roadside facility.

Problems may also occur when a transaction (such as the cost of a full tank of fuel) appears out of kilter with the card user's usual spending pattern. This may cause the system to call the issuing bank for verification, known as referral . The dealer may not be prepared to wait for this and may tell you your card has been declined. The best way to avoid this is to inform your bank prior to going away so that a note can be placed on your customer account. Be prepared to give details of the dates, location and duration of your trip to France and explain that you are likely to use your card for refuelling.

Feedback about your experiences of using a credit card to purchase boat fuel when visiting France are welcomed.
Marina Discount:

The marina Port Chantereyne in Cherbourg is offering members of the RYA a discount on berthing fees. They have also offered an information sheet on using red diesel in France.
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France........
Coastal Waters: there is no specific requirement for evidence of competence other than that stipulated by the vessel’s flag state. It is recommended (particularly in the Mediterranean) that you carry any certificates you have with you, as we very occasionally hear rumours that a certificate has been requested.
Inland Waters: evidence of competence is required for most inland waters unless the boat is less than 5m in length and is not capable of more than 11 knots (20kph). France has not adopted Resolution 40 however, the ICC is still recommended for a UK flagged boat as an ICC with the inland category validated demonstrates that the holder has sufficient knowledge of the traffic regulations applicable on inland waters, in particular the CEVNI.
The ICC may not be sufficient for vessels over 20m in length.
French translations of many RYA certificates and their related course syllabus are available from the RYA website. Certificate Translations | The ICC and Evidence of Competence Abroad | Boating Abroad | Information & Advice | RYA
The first obstacle to navigation for seagoing ships is often where inland waters begin. This can be a lock, a bridge or a tidal barrage. On smaller rivers, however the limit of the inland waters is taken to be the mouth. There are of course exceptions so if in doubt check with the local Harbour Master.
You must carry onboard
A copy of the CEVNI regulations (when visiting French inland waters).
ATIS and the RAINWAT Agreement
France is a signatory to the Rainwat Agreement, therefore an ATIS enabled VHF is required for the inland waterways of France.
Holding Tanks
French law requires that as of 1 January 2008 new vessels, whether French or foreign flagged, are fitted with a treatment system or retention tank for black water if they wish to have access to French ports, moorings and anchorages.
Users of older vessels which are not equipped with treatment systems or holding tanks for black water are, like all other pleasure yacht users, required to comply with the rules which prohibit discharge in ports and designated anchoring spots. They must therefore use shore toilets.
How these rules are to be applied or enforced is not very clear but it is anticipated that guidelines or a further law defining the extent and manner of application and any sanctions will be issued in the future.
In principal it is forbidden to flush toilets into canals and rivers, but as pump out facilities are few and far between until now discreet overboard discharging has been tolerated, this may of course change.
Other
Details of closures on the French Canals and the cost of the Vignette (the recreational licence requried by boats navigating the French VNF waterways) can be found on the VNF website (see link).

Credit cards at fuel pumps in France:

Members have previously reported problems they have encountered when trying to obtain fuel in France using a credit card.

The most common difficulty is in trying to get fuel at unattended, automatic fuel pumps, where UK credit cards don't always work. This is a retailer-related problem that affects all UK credit cards used in France; indeed, many such fuel pumps only take the carte bleu card, available to French residents only.

Unfortunately, and while there is no reason why UK chip and PIN cards should not to be accepted at such pumps, there is no way to resolve this unless and until French retailers review their policy. The solution, less convenient but usually cheaper, is to carry a couple of jerry cans and be prepared to fill up from a roadside facility.

Problems may also occur when a transaction (such as the cost of a full tank of fuel) appears out of kilter with the card user's usual spending pattern. This may cause the system to call the issuing bank for verification, known as referral . The dealer may not be prepared to wait for this and may tell you your card has been declined. The best way to avoid this is to inform your bank prior to going away so that a note can be placed on your customer account. Be prepared to give details of the dates, location and duration of your trip to France and explain that you are likely to use your card for refuelling.

Feedback about your experiences of using a credit card to purchase boat fuel when visiting France are welcomed.
Marina Discount:

The marina Port Chantereyne in Cherbourg is offering members of the RYA a discount on berthing fees. They have also offered an information sheet on using red diesel in France.
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FCO ADVICE FOR FRANCE
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French Weather Information Leaflet
L’ÉQUIPEMENT DE SÉCURITÉ DES NAVIRES DE PLAISANCE - DEC 2014
Equipment required for French flagged yachts
L’ÉQUIPEMENT DE SÉCURITÉ DES BATEAUX DE PLAISANCE EN NAVIGATION INTÉRIEURE - DEC 2014
Safety equipment requirements for pleasure craft navigation inland in France
VNF
PURCHASING A RECREATIONAL LICENCE FOR THE VNF WATERWAYS
How to obtain a vignette
VNF WORKS AND CLOSURES
Advanced information from the VNF
WATER LEVELS ON FRENCH WATERWAYS
GUIDE-DU-PORT
Harbour guide
TRAVELLING TO FRANCE WITH PETS
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Interactive map of marine protected areas
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Nah! Copy & paste direct from RYA website, do you think I've got time to burn😎


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Currently on my 10th year living and boating full time in NW France....
During that time, have owned 5 boats, all UK SSR registered, all flying the red duster.
These boats have been kept/launched from Granville, Mont st Michel, Cancale, St Malo, St Brieux, Brest, Point Du Raz, Audierne and Loctudy.
In all this time, I have NEVER been stopped by the "people with weapons" (gendarmes). ;-)

It does happen every so often but it's quite rare....

Just make sure you "look" English, wear a brash football shirt , and shout loudly at the French while overdoing a typical Allo Allo style accent as you ask for directions to "Le harburre masturr's" office!

Or, just make sure you fly that (beautiful) red ensign somewhere on the stern....;-)

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