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Old 21 September 2008, 11:18   #1
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SIB Questions?

I am currently saving up to buy a SIB, looking to spend up to 800. I have done a little bit of research and i think i want something at least 3m long, and at least a 10HP outboard. I know for 800 i won't get anything brilliant, but should get something reasonable 2nd hand.

I intend to use the SIB for use on the lakes in the lake district, and also would like to use it in the sea. One of the reasons for going for a SIB is so i can fit it into the boot of my car, cos i don't have anywhere to keep a trailor.

Now, what sort of weight are the outboards? For example whats the difference between a 10hp, 15hp, 20hp and 25hp? What am i best going for if i want to trasnport in my car boot? Also sometimes i would be on my own, now i would definatly go for those folding wheels to launch. Also what size boat should i go for?
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Old 21 September 2008, 13:46   #2
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Now, what sort of weight are the outboards? For example whats the difference between a 10hp, 15hp, 20hp and 25hp? What am i best going for if i want to trasnport in my car boot? Also sometimes i would be on my own, now i would definatly go for those folding wheels to launch. Also what size boat should i go for?
The weight of the engine will vary with the age, brand and type of engine (2 or 4 stroke). If you look at manufacturer's websites, you can likely get an idea of the weights of current engines.

In some cases, engines of different horsepower might actually be the same engine, just with different carbs, or computers etc. The key is not to exceed the rated power limit on the boat.

As for size, again that will depend entirely on the load tou need to carry. My forst SIB was 12.5 feet with a 25 on it. It was a great little bpat of touring around, for diving for a couple of us, and it sipped fuel. I did on occassion take 4 or 5 divers out in it, but that was a huge load.

My next SIB was 14 footer, with a 40. It went like stink, had lots of room for 3 or 4 divers, but was getting pretty heavy to haul around (especially with the 40) and I ended up puting it on a trailer. The boat would have been fine with a 25 as well I suppose...

"Footitis" is a common ailment associated with boats of al types. If you can find one, I'd suggest 14 feet is an ideal size, aith an engine that suits your needs~
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Old 21 September 2008, 14:58   #3
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I am currently saving up to buy a SIB, looking to spend up to 800. I have done a little bit of research and i think i want something at least 3m long, and at least a 10HP outboard. I know for 800 i won't get anything brilliant, but should get something reasonable 2nd hand.

I intend to use the SIB for use on the lakes in the lake district, and also would like to use it in the sea. One of the reasons for going for a SIB is so i can fit it into the boot of my car, cos i don't have anywhere to keep a trailor.

Now, what sort of weight are the outboards? For example whats the difference between a 10hp, 15hp, 20hp and 25hp? What am i best going for if i want to trasnport in my car boot? Also sometimes i would be on my own, now i would definatly go for those folding wheels to launch. Also what size boat should i go for?
2 stokes 10/15 outboards up to 10/12 years old, weights about 40/42 kilos, same 25/30 about 52/54 Kg, 4 strokes same versions add 10 KG minimum per model. If you plan to use a sib alone sometimes, a 330/340/350 would be fine with 15 HP if portability & less weight is a must have. For a larger sib same engine, you can opt for inflatable floor 360/380 models, larger woodem/aluminum sibs & engines will kill you if alone.

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Old 21 September 2008, 15:58   #4
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SIBs are great fun but don't under estimate the size of them when deflated. They will take up most of the room in the boot of an average car. You will probable end up with it on the roof or getting a little 4x3 camping trailer. They will be ideal on the lakes though.
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Old 21 September 2008, 16:17   #5
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Hi,

It sounds like you have the makings of a plan to me, a 3m boat with a 10HP will be both manageable and capable.

I am totally biased in favour of the Quicksilvers and on this occasion I am tempted to deviate from form and not suggest a heavy duty version, but one of the Sport models that has an inflatable keel section and a solid panel floor. You should be able to get a new 3.4m one for under 800 or a second hand one with an small engine for maybe a smidge more.

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Old 21 September 2008, 20:55   #6
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Forget about 3m. Get 3.30 hard floor or 3.65 airdeck you will not notice difference when packed between them and 3m. But on the water 365 will make huge difference. I used to own 3m now I have 3.85 my friend has 3.65. 9.8 Nissan 4st with high trust prop (pitch size 6) will put on the plane 3.65 with 200kg load.

800 ... look at non branded boats ... like http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ayphotohosting
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800 ... look at non branded boats ...
That looks like a Quicksilver Adventure to me, if the photo of the CE plate were high res I would be able to say for sure.

Even so, your advice is right about the step up from 3m to 3.4, 3.6 or even better a 3.8.
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That looks like a Quicksilver Adventure to me, if the photo of the CE plate were high res I would be able to say for sure.
I doubt it is a Quicksilver. It could look like one. Reverse engineering should be based on some brand.
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I doubt it is a Quicksilver. It could look like one. Reverse engineering should be based on some brand.
I quite agree, I do not see any Quicksilver branding at all. Hence it looks likes one, rather than being one.

The real give away is the CE plates, the grey-imports often have a copy of the 'donor' design's plate rather than being assessed in their own right.
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Honestly speaking I am not worrying too much about re-branded boats. Look at that http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...m=230289731054 Will you be able to get brand name 14 feet boat under 1K US$ shipped? No, period. Regarding quality I owned two boats from them and was able to compare my boats with others on a boat show. Trust me difference does not cost another 1K+ ....
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