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Old 11 July 2012, 19:24   #1
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Sib or Rib

Here is my problem. I have a 2002 Zodiac Futura II with a 50 HP Yam in great condition. My transom came unglued last year (wood to PVC part) so I reglued (used 5200 Marine adhesive) and than used aluminum on each side, basically permenently clamping the pvc to the transom with thru screws.

Now I have ungluing on the bottom on one corner right under the transom and am always nervous that the glue will fail at the tube and transom, losing my Yam.


so, here is my choices. $800 to $1000 for regluing the Futura by professionals OR buy a used YL380 Rib bottom (date mid 2000's) that has new Zodiac PVC tubes 12.5 ft./ console and bench seat for $2500.


The used rib with new tubes is rated for a 40 hp short and my Yam is a 2002 four stroke long shaft.

Really thinking about the switch. The moter is prestine.

Which way would you go.
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Old 12 July 2012, 03:03   #2
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Hey you should get a new boat and I will come and take that hunk of junk off your hands that needs major repairs for no charge. Really if you are going to throw it away, give it to someone to let them have a go at repairing it.

The glue on the boat has failed as they all do and it needs to be completely reglued...everything, not spot repaired, but completely taken apart including the transom and floor to fix it properly.

I would do everything possible to use the 50hp motor you currently have. It would work well on a 15-16ft RIB of some kind.
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Old 12 July 2012, 05:23   #3
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The used rib with new tubes is rated for a 40 hp short and my Yam is a 2002 four stroke long shaft.

Really thinking about the switch. The moter is prestine.
You are aware that your long shaft motor can't be used on the short transom RIB, aren't you?
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Old 12 July 2012, 10:58   #4
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A 50 hp 4 stroke is neither a good match for a Mark 2 futura (which should have a short shaft and nothing heavier than a 2 stroke 50 hp), nor for a light duty 3.8 m RIB such as a Yachtline.

Regarding the futura, there is a reason that the transom needs regluing after only 10 years! If you spend the money to have it re-glued, then slap the same motor on the boat the transom will separate even sooner than it did the first time.

Of the 3 items, no 2 will combine to make an acceptable boat & motor combination. One of those 3 items you have no investment in yet. That would be the first thing I would back away from (the 3.8. Yachtline) at least until you have firmly decided what you want to do with the other 2 items which you already have an investment in. Of the 2 items which are in your posession, one is pristine, the other needs a significant further investment in repairs to make it seaworthy, plus the purchase of an appropriate motor (which you do not currently have) to make it operational.

In my opinion, what needs to be assesed are the costs of 3 different scenarios:
1. The cost of repairing the futura, plus/minus the cost (or profit) for trading in your motor for a motor (in at least as good a condition) that is suitable for the Futura.

2. The cost of selling the futura (either for whatever you can get for it in it's current condition or what it would be worth after repairs) and applying that money to another boat (not the 3.8 m yachtline!) that is a proper match to your existing motor.

3. Selling both your boat (either as is or repaired) and motor, then applying that profit toward the purchase of the yachtline you have been considering plus tthe purchase of a motor that suits the yachtline.

Of the above 3 scenarios, #3 seems far and away the least practical.
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Old 12 July 2012, 21:34   #5
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Well, i should have slowed down when I wrote my topic. I have a 2002 two stroke Yam on the boat, not the the extremely heavy 4. This is the 50hp motor Zodiac dealers matched with it back in 2002.

That being said, the long shaft looks like it will now work with the rib set up the dealer has.
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my motor is a two stroke, sorry for the mis print on that one. Big difference. This is the notor that Zodiac dealer outfitted it with in 2002, so maybe it is a short shaft, will check in the AM.
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my motor is a two stroke, sorry for the mis print on that one. Big difference. This is the notor that Zodiac dealer outfitted it with in 2002, so maybe it is a short shaft, will check in the AM.
Ahh... This changes the dynamics. A fair bit. I did a double check on the Futura MK2 specs, and they do recommend a 20" shaft (maybe the speed tubes making the transom sit higher than their inflatable V-keel models).

I would still look further into why the transom separated from the tubes.
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