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Old 18 June 2012, 12:52   #11
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My zodiac did not handle well until I made the move to get weight forward. I would never run with a tank and battery at the back of the boat. To each his own!
My Yam had the tank in the same position as shown in Kelson's pic - so not really in the bow.

Used her in some good surf and pulling toys around, wouldn't have moved it back again, handles so much better.
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Old 18 June 2012, 16:45   #12
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The OP referred to moving the weight "toward the bow". He didn't say he would bolt it to the very first wooden section...

I rode with the big plastic tank strapped down to the second wooden floor section and it wasn't a problem. Now I just do that when I need the range. Just have to make sure the boat is properly inflated!

Nice thing about sibs is that everyone gets to customize their own layout. Lots of ways to do things.
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Old 18 June 2012, 20:21   #13
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The OP referred to moving the weight "toward the bow". He didn't say he would bolt it to the very first wooden section...
You are right, and my reading comprehension needs work.

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I rode with the big plastic tank strapped down to the second wooden floor section and it wasn't a problem. Now I just do that when I need the range. Just have to make sure the boat is properly inflated!
When I was trying to figure out where to put my fuel tank and battery, I went under the boat and looked at the hull. Since it is a 1992 boat that has sat on it's trailer most of it's life it is clear to see the pressure points. One of them is the 2nd board pushing hard on the floor where it meets the first board. Therefore the only weight I permanently keep up front is the milk crate with anchor and rode.

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Nice thing about sibs is that everyone gets to customize their own layout. Lots of ways to do things.
Definitely! Mine has seen a couple of revisions so far as my needs have changed. It just went on a big diet for beach launching, also making most everything inside removable to be hand carried up the beach.
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Old 18 June 2012, 20:51   #14
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The OP referred to moving the weight "toward the bow". He didn't say he would bolt it to the very first wooden section... .
That's my bad. I would never consider moving it to the bow. I did mean in the middle.
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Old 19 June 2012, 10:37   #15
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Actually Peter C and I are pretty much on the same page here. Every boat is a little different and each set up has its pros and cons. Peters post refers to the fact that he runs a lot with dive gear. Throw some weight up front in the boat like that and you end up balancing out the trim without tabs or moving your battery or gas tank. I used to be set up for mostly beach launches, but I've gone the other way and now it isn't easy to take everything out of my boat at all. I also have less open space than a tiller set up, but I'm comfortable in my suspension seats while towing people around all day or blasting out to surf. It all depends on what you are going to be doing 90% of the time. Since I mostly surf and foil with my boat it is set up for that. While I didn't have any issues with the second wooden floor section chafing the boats floor material, that may be a real issue in a different boat. I inspect the boat regularly to make sure my mods are holding up. I moved that forward tank back under the console bench to free up floor space, but it was working for me up forward like that until I could bring the battery forward too. In the end you want the boat to handle well and fit your needs. The bow rise on my futura was extreme on full throttle starts and the boat really was a bit scary coming off the top of large waves. I was ready to sell the boat after the first few runs, but now I have a stable platform that I am confident in. In the end experience will guide you and I'll bet your set up will change over time. Have fun!
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Old 19 June 2012, 13:04   #16
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Simple way to fix a tank in a vessel with removable floor panels (ie a SIB). Before fitting the floor panel onto which you wish to secure the tank, lay a webbing strap ( of the ratchet strap variety) widthways first. Fit the floor. The ratchet strap is now secured without drilling etc. Once inflated the sponsons secure the strap. Once the tank is ratcheted down it will not move.The sponson pressure prevents the floor bowing up and the whole system is non invasive. A towel under the tank softens the "fizz" but is not essential.
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Having a wing mounted on the outboard also changes the balance of the boat. I have a Stingray on mine. Keeps the bow down, and it planes at 12 mph.

Lots of options, you just need to decide which one is right for you. No matter what your setup is, it is best to keep the people back as far as possible.

My tank was originally mounted with these, although just screwed into the floor they have held up to abuse. The dissimilar metals react a little but not bad. Put some anti-sieze on them upon assembly. Then I used a cheesy ratcheting strap set from China that I figured I would throw away, but with some WD-40 they keep living with only surface rust. I just cut the tie down the length we needed.



I also have four of them mounted on the second board that my tag lines attach to so when returning from diving we clip our gear off to them before reboarding. I put a D-ring on my partners 24lb weight belt so she doesn't have to lift it into the boat, but instead she can clip it off and let if drop. So far they are all solid with no pull outs. They could always be thru bolted if protected on the bottom with nothing in the way.

The battery should definetely not be at the back of the boat. Taking water over the stern leaves the battery box getting wet (Seems to happen often to me *shrugs*). I moved mine forward just for this reason alone. It is also going to get put into a sealed tower here within a couple of weeks.

Kelson, there are many times when just out cruising I wish I had seats and a steering wheel like your boat has. Way more comfortable than sitting on the tube and twisting the throttle for over an hour. We wind up taking turns driving and lots of breaks. For diving out of though floor space is at a premium...there isn't any LOL
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Guys...these are GREAT posts, and great suggestions! Each one is valid. I guess I will follow the advice that seems to be common in all posts.....Try out various combinations, and use what works best for me

Thanks for all the insight!

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Pete; How big is that D-ring? Looks huge.

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Pete; How big is that D-ring? Looks huge.

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Very small actually. I would guess the pad eye is about an inch.

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