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Old 01 March 2019, 17:41   #61
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Np good to have all opinions .. Great to be a part of this and enjoying picking up knowledge.
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Old 02 March 2019, 04:06   #62
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Hi Cumbria good to see you starting out on a fantastic hobby but be aware it is very addictive. I quit work so I could pursue my love of the sea as much as I can before I can no longer go.

The 32IE is a great boat ..I have a mate who has one and he enjoys surfing Force 5 wave conditions on it.

Not that I recommend you doing that as a start off..but it is comforting to know your boat is more capable than your abilities as a beginner.

Just for interest..I started SIB life going to sea in a 2.75 seago slat floor powered by a 2.5HP outboard so in good conditions no boat is too small IMO. You have a far better first set up than I had.



I used it for 10 years and learned most my SIB techniques in that outfit as I had to think like the kayakers and use winds and tides to my advantage.. a skill that helps me even to this day in the bigger boats for remote areas. Of course I could only use it in calm condition days but that was not a problem for me back then.

My brother has a similar sized FRib to your boat and it happily takes three adults and a child to sea in good conditions. The youngsters love it. Its powered by a 6HP so wont plane with that load but Im from the generation where most sea going small boats went at displacement speed ..something the speeding younger generation know little about ?



I started in sheltered waters on calm days and built up confidence and experience before going into more exposed waters with breaking waves. I quickly found it is easier having the wind and waves blowing my wee boats along than fighting into it..so always made sure my first few trips were heading into wind and waves at the start of the journey so if they increased..I could get back to shore with them assisting me.

Anyhoo.. enjoy the new boat..My thoughts are you know what suits you better than anyone..and if anyone suggests that you made a mistake..just reply they should have bought a RIB instead of that SIB on a trailer...all the forum experts told you so …
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Old 02 March 2019, 04:48   #63
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>>> but Im from the generation where most sea going small boats went at displacement speed

Ha ha me too... and larger boats. Years ago had a great trip to The Channel Isles from Southampton... max 8kts. Two weeks out of Southampton visiting Brittany max 10kts.

First boat I owned myself as a teen a 12ft clinker dinghy runabout with 1lit 4cyl inboard... max 6kts.
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Old 02 March 2019, 05:33   #64
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Ahh..memories Fenlander ..some say those were the good old days..others tell the truth

I was almost born in the shelter of the bow of a C Fly dinghy as she raced round Chanonry Point .. almost 65 years ago.. thats me in the middle .. aged three with my first boat..the wee green one.



I was given my fist real boat when I was too was 12 ..it was was home built by my uncle and replicated a boat called a Picollo. A forerunner for todays Topers and Lasers etc ?



Yet some forum folk say its dangerous to go to sea with anything less than 10HP ..which is very possibly correct for their level of boating skills.

Perhaps we were lucky to survive them old days Fenlander.. We had no GPS VHF DSC or mobile phones. PB2 ..what's that ..something to eat ?? .. We learned quick or Darwin’s law had its way with us.

Cumbria ..perhaps you will be like us. .bitten by the sea bug for the rest of your days ..and you may pass that onto your kids too.
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Old 02 March 2019, 06:24   #65
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Thx again guys great info . I hope my 10 year old takes to it , she loves the sea wild swimming even I winter on Harris and Lewis . Yes my have to go bigger but wanted to learn on lakes and sheltered areas. Thought getting the 15hp would help if I wanted to go bigger later.
Soo excited to be getting it this coming week, hope to get out on ulswater at weekend for 1st go.
Booking on Ocean Youth Trust's power RYA level 2 costing £250 In Tyne Newcastle. Hope it's worth it.
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Thats the way to go cumbria enjoy
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Cumbria VHF radio course would be good to get at a later date it will just take time to build your gear up hope you have fun next weekend on your first voyage
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Let us know how the RYA level 2 course goes. I wouldn’t mind doing one myself. It’s just finding the time .
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PB2 ..what's that ..something to eat ?? .. We learned quick or Darwin’s law had its way with us.

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Better drowned than duffers. If not duffers then won’t drown! although the father in Arthur Ransom’s book had of course passed on his nautical knowledge to his children before he said that! Perhaps the best way for a newbie to avoid being a duffer is to do the course!
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Yup..agree Poly and you correctly got the meaning from my post starting..

“ Some say those were the good old days ..others tell the truth”

Without doubt the greatest gift my father left me was his love of the sea. He introduced his family to it as soon as we could walk. He not only showed us the ropes but he also taught me it was a sheet or a halyard I was to pull ... depending in which rope it was.

Back in those days the coastlines were littered with little red sails. That was the most popular way to get to sea. Sailing clubs sprang up all other the place so it was easy for folk to buy or more often than not ..make their own boat and learn their skills though a club. It was real experience gained in those days ..not reading internet answers thinking they are gospel words.



Although I was given a home made boat at age of 12 ..the boat was built by my uncle , an architect and one of the founders of sailing club at Troon, Barrassie ... so it was a proper job. However before he gave me it I had to prove that I could capsize and right it on my own.

Every year or so I still practise self rescue by jumping out my SIB ..it tests for myself how I get on with the clothes that I chose to wear for boating and how I get back in my boat. As such ... I know the range of my handheld VHF when its at head high and Im swimming in a smallish wave...in other words its aerial is inches from the water surface. It may frighten those who think it will call the coast guard..its difficult enough to transmit a few hundred yards to the kayakers I often go with.

For most my SIB days I had no problem getting into the boat but two years ago I started to struggle due to age and stiffening bones. That told me it was time to get a small boarding ladder. I cant get a foot up high enough to get onto the leg of the outboard ..when Im bogged down with wet clothes and old leg joints.

I have often asked other SIB guys..do you practise self rescue .. very very few have said yes..so they are relying on stuff they read..mostly from the internet ?

To be sea safe .. I would advise any boater to practise self rescue..it is drummed into kayakers ..dinghy sailors .. anywhere there are clubs. Obviously do it is safe waters and have someone ready to assist as you may find it more difficult that reading ..”ach just climb up the OB leg..its easy” The day you may find you cant..mat be your last day !!

I would strongly recommend PB2 too..however my only comment on the course is people go on it for a couple of days then think they can then sail round the UK because they are trained. I see that all the time .. but at least they will understand the theory of why they drowned.

You cant beat personal experience...so even with PB2 ..start with baby steps.

Of course this is all only my opinion.. others are free to disagree.

To end my post I will add another classic saying ..not by Arthur Ransnom though..but worth a thought ?


“Teach a man to fish and he’ll turn around and try to teach you to fish like he invented it and you’re an idiot”
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