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Old 13 August 2010, 15:51   #1
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Safety Boat SIB - Recommendations?

I am looking to purchase 2x SIBs to use as a safety boats for a youth charity I volunteer with.

We have a fleet of 9 sailing dinghies, and over 40 Kayaks, and take them away once a year on our summer camp; although I am looking to increase the number of coastal trips the dinghies do (we usually sail on a lake).

Our requirement for a safety boat is as follows:
- Inexpensive (relatively) both in purchase price and maintenance
- Suitable for use as a youth PB training boat
- Ideally transportable in such a way that it doesn't need a trailer
- Easy to secure
- A safe working platform for coaching
- Enough power to tow up to three dinghies
- Suitably for coastal use as well as inland

For that reason I have pretty much narrowed down what I am looking at to the Bombard C4, probably with wheels on the back, but with a Tohatsu 20hp Outboard.

My reasoning is the alu floor makes it a credible coaching platform, it's reasonably quick and durable, and I can fit it and engine in the back of a car for transporting, freeing the car up to tow dinghies.

Does anybody have any other suggestions? I chose the bombard as have already used one, but am open to other makes?
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Old 13 August 2010, 16:41   #2
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For that reason I have pretty much narrowed down what I am looking at to the Bombard C4, probably with wheels on the back, but with a Tohatsu 20hp Outboard....

....and I can fit it and engine in the back of a car for transporting, freeing the car up to tow dinghies.
Jimbo - have you done this? I don't know how big a 4.3m Sib is when folded up - but I'd have thought would be large. As I recall my 2str 20HP required the back seat down on a mazda 323 hatchback so your 4str will be bigger and heavier. I think with most cars you'll definitely need the back seat sown to fit it in - especially with fuel tank and any boating gear and safety kit (as well as personal kit for driver and passenger) that you might want in there. A 20HP 4str will also be a significant lift to get in and out of a car. Not sure if the boats or trailer are upto it but would it be better to pack this inside the dinghies?

Personally I'm not sure about random people packing and unpacking sibs and any potential damage that might inflict. Likewise with heavy engines which are sensitive to being stored on their side . You'll know the people better than me and how likely you are to spend your time fixing the damage of well meaning people who help out, or how likely it is that you become an essential part of the team as you are the only person who can do it right (and put them together) and how that might impact on you.
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Hi Polwart,

Thanks for the response

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Jimbo - have you done this?
Yes - Clipper Ventures have a Bombard C5 we use as a tender in the west country, and that plus it's 20hp Tohatsu fit in the back of my Citroen, with just one seat removed.

Many of our volunteers have landies, and we have a couple of big box trailers we use for kit - so it's manageable as a concept; certainly more so than a couple of Rigiflex's or similar.

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Not sure if the boats or trailer are upto it but would it be better to pack this inside the dinghies?
This is an option for the SIB, but probably not for the engine - too hard to secure it from moving about.


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Personally I'm not sure about random people packing and unpacking sibs and any potential damage that might inflict... ...you are the only person who can do it right (and put them together) and how that might impact on you.
Yep, this is a potential issue, but in reality no more so than getting people to put our (borrowed/hired) ribs to bed on trailers etc - at least it's our own kit we'd be trashing! My sailing team are a pretty good bunch, and have gotten used to me being OCD quite quickly, so I think we'd manage.

I've already made myself indespensible as long as I'm the only Senior Instructor and Advanced PBI that's part of the group - I'm working on getting some others qualified up ASAP to counter that
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Yes - Clipper Ventures have a Bombard C5 we use as a tender in the west country, and that plus it's 20hp Tohatsu fit in the back of my Citroen, with just one seat removed
I guess its not a citroen C1!

So which brands of SIB have you looked at to arrive at the Bombard? That will let those in the know suggest others.
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I used to have a yam 3.83 with a 25 on the back. I could carry it in the boot, on the roof rack, inflated on teh roof rack or load on the top of a trailer.

Would do what you need it to nicely.
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So which brands of SIB have you looked at to arrive at the Bombard? That will let those in the know suggest others.
None - I've started at the Bombard as that's what I've driven and packed etc with Clipper, then asked a question of the knowledgeable people of RibNet

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I used to have a yam 3.83 with a 25 on the back. I could carry it in the boot, on the roof rack, inflated on the roof rack or load on the top of a trailer.
I'm guessing that was a 25hp 2-smoke?

I'll get some pricing on a Yam 3.83 too - that may come down to being the deciding factor.
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Jimbo we had the Quicksilver 430 with Ali floor but kept it inflated on a trailer with a mariner 25hp as in photo with A frame etc.
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None - I've started at the Bombard as that's what I've driven and packed etc with Clipper, then asked a question of the knowledgeable people of RibNet



I'm guessing that was a 25hp 2-smoke?

I'll get some pricing on a Yam 3.83 too - that may come down to being the deciding factor.
Indeed it was
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Our Thundercat "Eastern Thunder" has proven very useful as a safety boat and a dinghy teaching platform.

We went for the 50hp Mariner on the back (its the same as the racing Tohatsu) but you could easily put a 30hp or a 20hp on it.

Its stable and can tow dingies off the ally transom very easily. Plus you can roll flat and put it in the boot of a large-ish car but it's a bit of a hassle compared to roof or trailering.

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