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Old 24 March 2012, 16:41   #1
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RYA Level 2 for launching on Wirral beaches

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I was wondering if anyone on this forum could help me.

To launch boats on the Wirral using the launch ways you need a council permit and to gain this permit you need RYA level 2 powerboat.

Would you need to have this permit if you were launching a 2.6m SIB with a 4hp motor from the beach? I have insurance, VHF radio, GPS, life jacket etc and am quite aware of the tides and safety aspects needed when going out, to be fair I wouldnt be going that far out anyway (just fancy doing a bit of fishing a few hundred yards from shore) Would probably be going out around the Leasowe Bay, Meols, West Kirby area.

I dont really fancy spending the 200 on the course to gain the permit if I dont really need it, but then again I dont wont to get pulled by someone for not having it.

Thanks in advance for your help.
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Old 24 March 2012, 16:49   #2
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I think you need this to gain access to the slipway, I also want to launch from the same area but like you don't have pb2 certificate
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Old 24 March 2012, 16:58   #3
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I don't know anything about the local rules in the wirral and of course the council can impose whatever rules they want on land/slipways that they own. I'd have thought they were most interested in protecting people close to the shore so the fact you aren't going far will be of little interest.

If you already have all the background knowledge and skills needed for pb2 you can do a direct assessment (half day?) Which should be significantly cheaper. Of course you need to be good enough to pass without extra training!
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Old 24 March 2012, 17:00   #4
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evening all, it might be worth while looking at details again, council run slipways offer a discount if you have a pb2, with regards to launching a 2.6 with a 4hp i beleave you only pay for launching with anything over 9.9hp ?
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Old 25 March 2012, 18:23   #5
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The Wirral require slipways need RYA level 2 to launch are apparently managed by subcontractors, Safewater Training, who can offer a full range of power boat proficence courses.

Seems a cosy agreement. I have used Moels of of season, had my first outing of the year today. Flat calm and blue skys.

Three days training before you can use the slip seems excessive, North and Mid Wales public slipways need registrations but no qualifications.

Cant bleive all the day fishing boats that use New Brighton all have the quals.
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i wouldn`t divulge that you have a vhf radio ,a mobile phone should be sufficient though i wouldn`t care about any licences if i needed to use one in an emergency.. an anchor and a coupla life jackets may be more sensible that close to shore
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Sounds like your not the only one in the area who may need the PBL2. Why not post on Ribnet and try to get a group together to take the course at the same time. It may get you a further discount on a group booking, especially if as Polwart says its for the half day option with no additional training.

It's not just about getting the permit. You'll get discount on some insurance which may well come in handy if you decide to upgrade
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my old man runs a school - may be worth comparing prices?:

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Don't forget the club membership that you must have to launch. It's a nightmare. I just go to N Wales instead.

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Sounds like your not the only one in the area who may need the PBL2. Why not post on Ribnet and try to get a group together to take the course at the same time. It may get you a further discount on a group booking, especially if as Polwart says its for the half day option with no additional training.

It's not just about getting the permit. You'll get discount on some insurance which may well come in handy if you decide to upgrade
the sailing centre at west kirby offer the course and is council run, you can get discount if you have the wirral passprt, even those who live outside wirral can get a cat c one which gives 10% off, when i did mine 2 years ago it was 160 full price, we did the sat all day and the sunday was little over half day

the discount you get is 50% if you are in a recognised club, nothing to do with pbl2, and its a requirement - no pbl2 no permit, and if the lifegurads are at the 3 slipways that you can use arround the wirral... no access to the slipway and they are strict!
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