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Old 05 November 2007, 06:15   #1
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RIB or full inflatable?

Morning all,

I've been perusing this excellent forum, and thought I'd wade in for some advice, I grew up around boats and as a child I used to have a small Zodiac inflatable complete with an 8hp Mariner, excellent fun, and I fancy buying an inflatable for use on the coast / holidays but mainly for messing around on the Thames.

I live about a mile from the Thames and would use one of the slipways, around Richmond / Mortlake / Twickenham etc to launch it. The idea would be to keep it on a trailer during the summer for ease of use, and during the winter fold it up and store along with the trailer stacked at the back of my garage - Living in London storage is the major issue, I have a 2 x garages full with Classic cars at the moment - so I was thinking of a full inflatable or a folding transom RIB...

What I'm after is some advice on what to go for, I don’t want to jump in and go for a full inflatable where possible it would be a compromise too far compared to a proper RIB?

Technology seems to have moved on a fair bit since I was last interested - I'd like to have room enough for 4 (large) adults to use it comfortably.

I've looked at both the Honwave 4m with 20hp Honda and the Walker Bay Genesis 3.4 (folding transom) with 15hp Mariner (both 4-strokes) has anyone got any opinions on my choices so far or any other recommendations? both come in new at about the 3k mark. I like the idea of the Honwave full inflatable as it could be folded up and taken away on holiday, the Walker Bay folds to 8ft x 3ft x 18” so not very easy to transport (but fine for storage)

Also been looking at both RIBs and Inflatables 2nd hand...hopefully to get a good deal now its the end of the season. Can anyone recommend any websites I should be looking at.

Many Thanks,

Steve.
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Hi Steve,

I am biased towards inflatables, partly because I sell them and partly because they the most fun you can have for the money.

What you do not get with the single keel SIBs is anything other than a shallow V hull, so you get more slam in the chop than you would with a medium or deep V with some RIBs.

Having said that, aside from being cheaper, they are also great fun - more versatile too. They also use smaller engines and so you get more zoom for your money and weight.

For what you describe I would go for a 4.3m Quicksilver, no reason why you can't get the boat, engine and trailer all new for under 3k.

http://shop.malthouse-marine.com/index.php?p=product&id=19&parent=5

Feel free to PM or call if I can help,
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Thanks Martin,

I've tried to phone but no answer.
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All,

Has anyone got an opinion on the Honda boat compared to the Quicksilver HD offering?

In general; what is the hierarchy of outboards? - many moons ago Mercury / Mariner used to be the "good" ones?

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Hi Steve,

I was in exactly the same position as you a couple of months ago, having sold my Humber 5.5 RIB.

I was looking at the Honwave with an inflatable floor, I went to the Southampton boat show to have a look and buy if I got a deal!

I ended up buying a Quicksilver 380 XS HD as Malthouse suggests. It is so much more robust than anything else around for similar money. I got it with a Yamaha 20hp 2 Stroke. The benefit of that being it is much lighter and more easily transportable than the 4 stroke. Launched it in Salcombe a couple of weeks ago and it flys with four adults aboard.

I also had launching wheels put on - which are awesome. PM if you want anymore details

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Steve,

Here are some recent threads about full inflatables (SIBS) that you might find helpful.


Small rib vs large SIB

new sib

Who owns a Zodiac Futura?

Looking for an SIB

Sib handling in choppy waters?

Extreme SIB - Gemini Dive 470

Ultimate SIB
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Thanks Gents.

And thanks to Martin @ Malthouse for an informative chat.

Cheers,

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Hi Steve,

I was in exactly the same position as you a couple of months ago, having sold my Humber 5.5 RIB.

I was looking at the Honwave with an inflatable floor, I went to the Southampton boat show to have a look and buy if I got a deal!

I ended up buying a Quicksilver 380 XS HD as Malthouse suggests. It is so much more robust than anything else around for similar money. I got it with a Yamaha 20hp 2 Stroke. The benefit of that being it is much lighter and more easily transportable than the 4 stroke. Launched it in Salcombe a couple of weeks ago and it flys with four adults aboard.

I also had launching wheels put on - which are awesome. PM if you want anymore details

Alex
Hi Alex

I was reading this thread with great interest as I'm in a similar position to Steve, though like yourself would want to use the boat down in Salcombe. Even better, I notice that you also holiday in/live in Slapton!

My dilemma is that I've been looking at inflatables as they seem the ideal boat for Salcombe where the tide moves so fast. (I beached a hire boat one day and had to get the ferry tractor on South Sands to pull me off! I wished I'd been in an inflatable.)

However, I'd like to venture beyond the harbour, around to Bigbury or even up to Slapton and Blackpool Sands.

My feeling is that this would be too much of an ask for a 4m inflatable - I've been looking at a Quicksilver or Excel with a 30/40hp engine.

Do you venture beyond the harbour? Or am I looking at completely the wrong type of boat for this?

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Many thanks,

Simon
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Do you venture beyond the harbour? Or am I looking at completely the wrong type of boat for this?
Hi Simon,

I know this was not directed at me, but I can deffinately offer you some assurances that the Quicksilver 4.3m Heavy Inflatable is very capable in open water.

Our demo boat is almost always that mid-range model and we usually power them with a 25HP even though they will take a 30, you get more slap from the hull as it is not the deepest of Vs but they are very sturdy even in fiesty seas. We use them in the Channel and Thames Esturay, neither of which are known for being gentle waters.

If you want cheap, light and fun then go for an SIB.

If you are after all weather comfort then go for a RIB.
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Hi Simon,

I know this was not directed at me, but I can deffinately offer you some assurances that the Quicksilver 4.3m Heavy Inflatable is very capable in open water.

Our demo boat is almost always that mid-range model and we usually power them with a 25HP even though they will take a 30, you get more slap from the hull as it is not the deepest of Vs but they are very sturdy even in fiesty seas. We use them in the Channel and Thames Esturay, neither of which are known for being gentle waters.

If you want cheap, light and fun then go for an SIB.

If you are after all weather comfort then go for a RIB.
Thanks Martin - have been reading some of your other posts - you obviously know a thing or two about inflatables!!

As it'll be a family boat - 3 kids 14, 12 & 10 - safety will be a very important factor, which is why I was perhaps veering towards RIB, as choppy water and SIBs don't seem to be a good mix.

But then I have to consider storage I suppose.

Like Steve, I live in London, not too far from Thames, so would like to get some use out of it up here, but main requirement would be for summer hols down in Salcombe and similar.

A SIB I could pack away and put in my garden shed - a RIB may have to be a permanent fixture on my front drive. Not very sightly in the middle of Wimbledon!

And then I have to consider transport. I drive a Golf - not much use for towing a RIB I suppose?

So many decisions!!!!!
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