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Old 16 November 2007, 08:25   #11
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And then I have to consider transport. I drive a Golf - not much use for towing a RIB I suppose?

A golf would be ok to tow with as long as you don't buy something over about 5m and use a rope on steep slips.

I wonder how many people buy inflatables thinking they can pack them away then don't use them because of the hassle of setting them up?
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Old 16 November 2007, 08:27   #12
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As it'll be a family boat - 3 kids 14, 12 & 10 - safety will be a very important factor, which is why I was perhaps veering towards RIB, as choppy water and SIBs don't seem to be a good mix.
I take my little lad out regularly (with a good lifejacket/harness wrapped round him) and have never worried for his safety. A couple of years ago when he was 3 or 4 we went round North Foreland to watch the airshow, we were out all day and he was fine as were the two gowd ups.

The shallow V is good for low speed or stationary stability, which is very handy. With kids on board you are probably not going to be travelling flat out all the time, to the high-speed comfort of a RIB is less of an issue. Don't forget you can still have a console in a SIB.

Having said all of that, I am in the market for an old Avon Searider - so I can certainly see the benefits of either case.

Storage is a big plus, the 4.3m folds down and stows into two bags; the biggest (tubes) being about 5'x3'x2' when packed loosely.
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Old 16 November 2007, 08:54   #13
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Shed,

if you're looking at portability I would absolutely second Black's "go 2- stroke" comment. (quick example from the Tohatsooo brochure - the 18Hp 2- stroke is 10Kg lighter than the 4 - stroke!) 2- strokes are also not quite so fussy how they lie in your car boot, as long as you don't lift the prop higher than the power head. An older premix engine will also lighten it up a bit - the oil injection gear & a couple of litres of oil do make a difference!

Also one to watch out for- a lot of the manufacturers use one block for two or three horsepowers. e.g my old Suz 25 was a derated 30. Made it a bl**dy heavy 25, but not bad when compared to other 30s. It varies from make to make & model to model, but worth keeping half an eye on.

Hope this helps......
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Old 16 November 2007, 09:02   #14
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Hi Simon,

I should have updated this thread sooner...

I have settled on an Excel Inflatable the XHD430 very similar to the quicksilver boat as far as I can see, complimented by a 30hp Mercury 2 Stroke. I plan to take out 4 adults (incl. 2 x reluctant mariners!) and wanted to make it as "comfortable" as possible so would have thought the 380 might be a bit on the small side.

As you say storage is a major issue, and the Excel (along with the Quicksilver that Martin sells) will fold down to two bags, one with the boat and another with the floor (in 4 sections) / oars / pump etc. very easy to store along my with my other toys.

I am seeing a local trailer builder on Saturday, with a view to making a trailer that dismantles and is then easily storable too. I can then keep the boat inflated with the engine installed and all ready to go in the summer... (I can see inflating/deflating every time will be a chore if you want a quick few hours)
I can then store the whole package for the winter (and can even pack everything - including the trailer - in the car if I want to take it on holiday / to the coast - I have a big car )

Good luck, and if you need any pointers (all the possible options have been going round and round in my head for months!) drop me a line... I'm in Twickenham and your more than welcome to have a look at the boat / outboard size.

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Old 16 November 2007, 09:08   #15
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Hi 92D80,

See above - I heeded your advice even before it was given!

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Old 16 November 2007, 09:22   #16
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The Ribnet time machine is obviously working today!!!!

Enjoy your new toy, should be a hoot 1 up!
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Old 16 November 2007, 09:30   #17
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Hi Simon,

I should have updated this thread sooner...

I have settled on an Excel Inflatable the XHD430 very similar to the quicksilver boat as far as I can see, complimented by a 30hp Mercury 2 Stroke. I plan to take out 4 adults (incl. 2 x reluctant mariners!) and wanted to make it as "comfortable" as possible so would have thought the 380 might be a bit on the small side.

As you say storage is a major issue, and the Excel (along with the Quicksilver that Martin sells) will fold down to two bags, one with the boat and another with the floor (in 4 sections) / oars / pump etc. very easy to store along my with my other toys.

I am seeing a local trailer builder on Saturday, with a view to making a trailer that dismantles and is then easily storable too. I can then keep the boat inflated with the engine installed and all ready to go in the summer... (I can see inflating/deflating every time will be a chore if you want a quick few hours)
I can then store the whole package for the winter (and can even pack everything - including the trailer - in the car if I want to take it on holiday / to the coast - I have a big car )

Good luck, and if you need any pointers (all the possible options have been going round and round in my head for months!) drop me a line... I'm in Twickenham and your more than welcome to have a look at the boat / outboard size.

Cheers,

Steve
Remarkable coincidence Steve - I work in Twickenham and I've just asked for a quote on an Excel XHD430 with a 30hp!! (I did ask for 4 stroke, though from what I have read a 2 stroke will be a lot lighter - quite important for a 30hp I expect.) I went for it for exactly the same reasons as you, though I'm just trying to get an idea on price at the moment.

You make a very good point about keeping the boat inflated on a trailer during the summer, so I'd be fascinated to hear more about the trailer you're talking about. We occasionally hire boats from a boatyard in Surbiton, but if we had our own sitting on the drive on a summer's day I'm sure we'd go out alot more often.

Have you taken the boat out yet? I'm still slightly indecisive about the floor having read some very positive threads about air decks, though I did come across a thread where an airdeck appeared to fold vertically in the chop! So then I got thinking about a RIB, but a wooden/aluminium floor seems to be a happy middle-ground.

I may well take you up on your offer to visit and see your boat/outboard size, though I imagine you've packed it away for the winter now?

Cheers,

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Old 16 November 2007, 10:21   #18
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Simon,

Drop me an email and I'll send you my number if you need any info.

stevehodder@blueyonder.co.uk

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I can then keep the boat inflated with the engine installed and all ready to go in the summer... (I can see inflating/deflating every time will be a chore if you want a quick few hours)
A 12V electric pump will save you a lot of footpumping. You can get a fast pump that will inflate to about a a pound and a half, and top up with the footpump, or get a slower pump that will go to your desired pressure (no footpump needed.)

Good luck with the new toy;

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A 12V electric pump will save you a lot of footpumping.
Very true, I use a self contained rechargeable type that sells for around 20 quid. Just as you say, get the bulk of the air in with no effort and then get the tubes up to pressure with a proper pump.

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