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Old 21 July 2011, 10:31   #11
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the repair has now sat for 48hours in temp and humidity controlled room ,
read conflicting informationon curing time, some saying its ready to pressure test after 48hrs others saying it takes a full 7 days for the bond to reach full strength, is this right?
is it worth waiting 7 days? are there advanteges or not? thanks.

patience has never been my strong point LOL
These guys say they give their repaired boats back to customers after 48 hours. Information From ShipStore.com | Zodiac Inflatable Boat Fabric Glue and Repair Instructions | GLUE from the ShipStore.com ™ on-line catalog.. Presumably to is OK to inflate if they are giving them back!!
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Old 21 July 2011, 11:09   #12
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thanks scarlet jester yes 48hrs and continues to strengthen over next 7 days may give it a go tomorrow
how is yours going with the sureseal?


11. Wait at least 48 hours before use or removal from the climate controlled space.

The chemical bond will continue to strengthen over next 7 days. Don't be tempted to shorten the process. We don't release repaired boats to customers for 48 hours to be sure. Don't cut this short: your patch could peel off like a Post-It® note!
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Old 21 July 2011, 11:21   #13
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thanks scarlet jester yes 48hrs and continues to strengthen over next 7 days may give it a go tomorrow
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11. Wait at least 48 hours before use or removal from the climate controlled space.

The chemical bond will continue to strengthen over next 7 days. Don't be tempted to shorten the process. We don't release repaired boats to customers for 48 hours to be sure. Don't cut this short: your patch could peel off like a Post-It® note!
Looks like it has done the trick!

I spent most of the night putting the Bravo pump back together with the test being inflating the floor. I did not have the right attachment on the pump for the floor and the noise it was making out the front of the house at 22:30 I did not get it to the full 11.2 psi! Suffice to say it was pretty rock hard so could not have been far off. The areas I repaired with the Sureseal were solid and not a sign of air coming out – very pleased. I have one more area to do on the stitching between the panels so will be putting it on there tonight. Hard to know how it would preform on bigger holes as the holes I was repairing were numerous but very small. I am stoked as that would have been a b*stard to patch!
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Old 21 July 2011, 11:55   #14
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good to hear ,i think it looks like the ideal solution if a patch is going to fail, and from the test pieces i have tried i would be confident small holes would be a permanent repair , even the half inch cut test piece, i havent been able to pull apart by hand tried again today LOl
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Old 22 July 2011, 06:51   #15
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good to hear ,i think it looks like the ideal solution if a patch is going to fail, and from the test pieces i have tried i would be confident small holes would be a permanent repair , even the half inch cut test piece, i havent been able to pull apart by hand tried again today LOl
Indeed. Also useful if the area is hard to get at such as parts of a Bombard floor! I will be taking it to France with me that is for sure! I sealed the stitching seams last night both sides so will be inflating the floor this evening and testing all the areas to see if it is all airtight. I will let you know how it preforms under 11.2psi!
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a few picys of the repair to the floor. blown up today at 10 and still rock hard 19.30 tonight , so pretty pleased with that.
done a similar repair to nashers but as it was only a seap i didnt do the belt and braces approach just wrapped it down the side where it was required in the centre to till it meeets the curve, done the other side even though there were no problems to keep it looking uniform, in one picy there is a wooden former recommended by nasher so i could get the patches down firmly with the seam roller that worked really well
just needs a bit of a clean up now
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That looks really good! Did you try to fix it with that other product that was just in a tube? Or did you go straight for the patches?

Is the fixes always done with the floor inflated or should it be empty while gluing?
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I did not have the right attachment on the pump for the floor and the noise it was making out the front of the house at 22:30 I did not get it to the full 11.2 psi! Suffice to say it was pretty rock hard so could not have been far off. The areas I repaired with the Sureseal were solid and not a sign of air coming out – very pleased.
1. Is the bravo electrical pump that noisy? HOW noisy is it?

2. Is sureseal that magic tube? Does it have a good reputation? Does the seal last over time? How much is it and how the heck do I get it over to Sweden?
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i went straight for patches for the seap because i think i would alwys patch where possible,
but saying that sureseal xxx i beleive would of done the job its basically a liquid patch and it would come into its own on seams or hard to reach places its as flexible as the pvc fabric itself and appears to have good stregth and bonding it cost me around £8 and i think it would do many many repairs ,
i done my repairs with the foor deflated useing the wooden profile i made which has the same profile as the floor,using it underneath the floor so its solid when pressing and flattening out the patch with a roller
the bravo pump sounds like a series of loud farts when its running LOL

Sureseal XXX Flexible Repair Sealant & Adhesive - 75ml Tube - Only £8.40 - Good Boat Chandlers
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I suspect that Sureseal is a urethane adhesive of the type used for wetsuits and such like. It is marketed under many names, McNett Aquaseal being the most common. It used to be sold as AquaSure. I've used it for many things over the years and it's very good at sorting small nicks and seaps on inflatables. Past use would suggest that the adhesive hardens and discolours over a few years. For that reason, I'd patch if possible.
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