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Old 04 March 2008, 06:23   #11
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You are worrying too much! You will not have damaged your SIB running it under-inflated for a short trip. Get a pressure guage if you like (your Quicksilver dealer should be able to supply one, or search on the Internet), but you will not be able to hold the boat at a constant pressure ...The sun comes out, it get's harder ...The sun goes in, it get's softer ...Bring it up the beach, it get's harder ...Put it back in the water, it get's softer. That's the nature of inflatables!

Inflate the boat so that the tubes are firm to the touch when in water (but not so firm that they feel like a drum skin!), and you will be fine. You may have to let a bit of air out on the beach to keep the pressure down and avoid stressing the seams. Just put a bit back in before going back on the water. The supplied foot pump is ideal for this.

Regarding storage; keep a bit of air in or take it all out. It will not make any difference to the boat. But it will be more compact for storage if you take it all out!

Have fun. That's a nice boat.
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Old 04 March 2008, 10:01   #12
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[QUOTE=Clipper;240343] yes, locozodiac, you are right it is a tohatsu 18hp, not sure? but it doesnt seem to plain well, too much power do you think?
here is a pic.

Personally been having to much water splash inside a 360 sib because of the tramsom height with respect of the engine, will need to rise my transom a complete 1" to be inside the engine factory specification limits, that is 3 to 5 cm from the boat's bottom to the anticavitation plate. Yes I too own and sale Tohatsu's 18 HP 2 stroke engines. Have tried the same sib with a Toh 25 and doesn't give me this splashing problem, is a tail design issue that will be corrected once the transom is raised. If your Toh is brand new, don't forget double oil mix for the first 10 hours.

That "dosen't seems to plane well is a very vague answer", how many buddies were on the sib, how well was the sib balanced, was your trim angle ok, was the sib correctly inflated ? All of us have passed through novice so if you have time to be more precise to understand the problems you have been having. Send an email to my personal email : locozodiac@hotmail.com and will threat this theme out of the post so not bother ribnetters with repetitive issues.

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Old 04 March 2008, 13:54   #13
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This type of electric inflators will only inflate your sib to look as if it has reached full air pressure, still will need a final inflation device to have the inflation work completed to it's correct working pressure. Leaving in doubt use a pressure gauge and see for yourself. Is the same type of inflator used to inflate huge plastic toys, just air, not pressure. Use them sometimes specially when inflating new sibs out of their boxes and complete the job with a Bravo 6 Double Action Pump + hand manometer.

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WRONG... the Rule pumps are designed to pump the inflatable up to the corret pressure.
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Old 04 March 2008, 17:19   #14
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WRONG... the Rule pumps are designed to pump the inflatable up to the corret pressure.
Sorry to say but you are partially correct...

"The high speed Rule pump inflator will give 2.6 to max 3.0 PSI, which is suitable in most instanses. If extra pressure is required top up with a manual pump to desire pressure" (Excerpted from Rule Pumps Operating Instructions)

The correct working pressure is 3.5 PSI once on water...

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Old 04 March 2008, 17:29   #15
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Sorry to say but you are partially correct...

"The high speed Rule pump inflator will give 2.6 to max 3.0 PSI, which is suitable in most instanses. If extra pressure is required top up with a manual pump to desire pressure" (Excerpted from Rule Pumps Operating Instructions)

The correct working pressure is 3.5 PSI once on water...

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I can't speak for the Zodiac but for my SIB and the RIB the Rule does the job without any assistance.
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same here!! chris is right, ive never needed to assist the electric pump with a manual,!!

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Old 04 March 2008, 19:37   #17
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thank you for the info guys,

i did a search initially in regards to sibs and was swamped with information, thats why impatience got the better of me and i started this thread.

i am sure for all the experienced guys out there my question would be kind of silly.

but, i was always told 'if you dont ask, you wont find out'

i appreciate all the input i have received thus far, and hope to get some more.

"That "dosen't seems to plane well is a very vague answer", how many buddies were on the sib, how well was the sib balanced, was your trim angle ok, was the sib correctly inflated ? "

2 people, 85kg+55kg
i believe the sib was balanced, fuel and 55kg on one side, myself on the other.
not sure about the trim, it was fully down, thats all i know.
the sib was not correctly inflated.


another question, i have searched it, but cant get a clear answer.
-can a sib handle rough seas? ribs definitely can, australian lifeguards use sibs in the surf, would a 'normal' sib be able to 'wave jump'?
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another question, i have searched it, but cant get a clear answer.
-can a sib handle rough seas? ribs definitely can, australian lifeguards use sibs in the surf, would a 'normal' sib be able to 'wave jump'?

A sib can handle rough seas but will definitely jump a lot if at wot, better is to cruise at lesser speeds and take it easy, be patient if you have to travel far...

Any sib/rib can wave jump, will depend on your engine HP, skill and practice, though a bit dangerous if done not properly...not recommended for novices untill you have gained complete control of your boating skills and know your boat behaviour well !

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You are worrying too much! You will not have damaged your SIB running it under-inflated for a short trip. Get a pressure guage if you like (your Quicksilver dealer should be able to supply one, or search on the Internet), but you will not be able to hold the boat at a constant pressure ...The sun comes out, it get's harder ...The sun goes in, it get's softer ...Bring it up the beach, it get's harder ...Put it back in the water, it get's softer. That's the nature of inflatables!

Inflate the boat so that the tubes are firm to the touch when in water (but not so firm that they feel like a drum skin!), and you will be fine. You may have to let a bit of air out on the beach to keep the pressure down and avoid stressing the seams. Just put a bit back in before going back on the water. The supplied foot pump is ideal for this.

Regarding storage; keep a bit of air in or take it all out. It will not make any difference to the boat. But it will be more compact for storage if you take it all out!
^What he said ^
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If you don't have a decent supplier in Oz then you could use these guys: Force 4

I've just checked and they'll send items world-wide, postage would be "charged at cost"

Bought the Bravo HP pump featured in the link yesterday, thats the cheapest I could find it in the UK - inflates air floors up to 12psi. Luckily they have a branch 2 mins drive from where I work in Bristol
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