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Old 20 January 2009, 09:43   #1
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Portabote Sea Test Trial

Before becoming a boat importer, some research was done in the net, wanted something easy to install, with good seaworthiness and good priced to offer to clients. The first research was done to Portabote, had some tech, price information exchange with them, was about to order Portabote 10” & 12” samples, was in God’s will not to order. A friend of mine had a second hand 12” and wanted to buy a portable engine, but wanted to try it first before buying, so we got together as I was wanting to sea test the boat before importing one and my friend wanted to test a small engine on this boat before throwing himself into the pool.

You’ll be asking why am I posting irrelevant information on a boat that is not a sib, rib, hard hull, it’s a origami boat, as a long term sibber have been touched by the false propaganda Portabote uses to promote their products, that is, demonazing sibs as if they were real dangers to use, just see first picture to see what I’m referring. If this would really happen, this type of users would be a real danger to society, should be in a mental institution and not using boats. Some other false propaganda stated on their web site:

Disadvantages Of An Inflatable: (Mostly Lies)

1-Takes between a half hour and an hour to inflate or deflate.
False : Not with double action pumps or electric inflators.

2-Punctures easily if you hit a sharp rock
False : Will depend on the fabric used, PVC, Akron, Hypalon and it's thickness.

3-Inflated tubes uses up 30% to 40% of available interior space – unless they are punctured!
No answer for this one, what the heck! At least have tubes to sit on comfortably.

4- Portabote needs only a small 4HP- 6HP outboard to go up to 15 mph with one person. Portabote will get up on a plane with as little as 2 HP with one person aboard!. Inflatables needs at least a 20 HP outboard weighing over 120 pounds (54.5kg) for similar performance.
False : Any sib up to 12" will fly with a 20 HP engine, besides who will go out with such small 4-6 HP engines and have full day cruising divertimento ?

5-No pumps, no patch kit, no more worrying about a popped air chamber, no more trying to stop the slow leaks that develop every day you own an inflatable boat. Over 70% of new Portabote owners are former inflatable owners who have "had it" with all the hassle involved with an inflatable.
False: Must be real sib newbies that couldn't take the sib out of the bag.

Where I live, this is call “false propaganda” and is fined by law, you cannot lie, cheat on a advertisement on behalf of your product and advertise directly against other products making irrelevant and stupid comparissons. As you see, the web can hold whatever true or false statements you want to post, without any advertisement restriction whatsoever.

So this is my personal sea test trial, the truth of what have found :

The Portabote takes it’s time to assemble, has a horrible eye catching origami view, won’t accept nothing larger that a 10 HP, once on throttle and wanting to plane the thing, the bottom deck rocks too much, has great water slag, although the propaganda states that won’t flip, the excessive side rocking issue says the contrary. The floor lacks rigidity even standing on it, also bumps, The outer transom and bow view are the worst that have seen, looks cheapo and awfully crafted. Lacks nice speeding/cruising sensation as a sib. A real sea nightmare if used on open oceans with fast winds, currents, only intended for lake or river mostly fishing use. The tested 12” model with a 5 HP didn’t plane at all, not even with one light mate. The worst money investment of all times, buy one and throw your money directly to sea, and they are more costly than same size sibs.

Botom line : If you are real sibbers, stay away from this non professional expensive clumsy origami boat, the only perfect end use I can think of is, use it on your pool as a floating solarium, fill it with soil, plant nice plants on top, will look great and original in your garden. These real pics speaks for themselves.

Maybe John will be in total disagreement about this tech post as Portabote is advertising here, we're in democracy and Portabote doesn't have the right to lie to potential new buyers in that huge false terms against sibs to buy or preffer their product and state a huge, potential tehc differences against our belowed sibs.

To end, would like to know your point of view regarding this false propaganda issue demonizing /slighting sibs & sibbers as well. What are your thoughts, ideas, sibber’s community ?

Long Live the Sib…
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Old 20 January 2009, 10:43   #2
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Portabote is actually a google ad.

I agree-it's hideous. Is there any bouyancy in them?
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Old 20 January 2009, 10:51   #3
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Portabote is actually a google ad.

I agree-it's hideous. Is there any bouyancy in them?
Ok for the Google correction, it's bouyant, floats a lot, but sideways rocks too much, like a halve nut on water, it's a toy trying to be professional use, the last floating "thing" would ever want to buy...

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So it'll sink if it's swamped when empty?
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So it'll sink if it's swamped when empty?
According to manufacturer no, has countour all around boat buoy green foam like slides, will still float full of water, did not tried this isuue out, didn't want to flood my 5 Hp engine. Besides, the water test on extreme water flatness was a real boating disaster. Alleluya tested before ordering two costly 10" & 12" samples. Pic Nš 4 shows upper lateral bouyancy slides, besides plastic weights none and floats a lot, like cork.

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So...if it capsizes you wouldn't be able to right it and bail it out?
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So...if it capsizes you wouldn't be able to right it and bail it out?
If by capzizing you mean the hull is completely up including engine prop, don't have an answer for this one, maybe wrong, will asume once completely flooded will tend to make a suck like issue when trying to right it back, once back easy to bail out (is that taking all water out) ? Don't know if this answer is at the Portabote web page as they seem to have an answer for everything to ridicule sibs.

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There are a couple of guys that surf around the point here in San Diego using one of these boats. Pretty amazing that they occasionally round the shelf area off the point in a vessel with so little freeboard at all. They do stick to the surf spot inside of the point when there is real surf. The two of them get back in the boat as a two man drill. One weighting a side and the other pulling over the opposite side from on top his surfboard. Guess they aren't taking too big of a risk since they are in wetsuits, have surfboards and it's just a long paddle home? It isn't just an issue of the vessel remaining afloat, I kind of like it when my engine doesn't get swamped. I thought my boat was a toy...
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Saw this recently whilst researching folding canoes would you believe, it just looks so flimsy, and that if anything hits it, youre done for ! When you can fold an SIB into the size of a large suitcase, I just dont see the point. An SIB will take a battering which that thing never will, and still float. I've tortured my little SIB, Groundings, Rocks, fast beachings, you name it and its still a reliable and safe mode of transport on the sea (with and odd patch ....) *edit* thats another point .. the SIB repairs easy too!
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There are many Portabote fans around the world, being used to suit many different ways of boating needs. Don't think that any owner who has owned a sib and used it correctly will switch for a Portabote. Maybe a change just in terms of easy storage, light weight transportation and that's all to it. I'm not prettending to be mean with this origami light boat, but definiteley it's a crime, out of this world issue, to compare and pretend to be better than a sib. The owner needs to have both ears pulled.

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