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Old 29 November 2009, 13:20   #21
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1- Ten minutes to inflate and rig a Zodiac Fastroller.

2- I don't see many Portajokes running the white water rapids of the Colorado!

3- Try sitting six people (or one, for that matter) on the portacoffin's gunnels.

4- Portacarton will plane with a 2 hp....only if someone has removed a 0 sticker from the cowl. I'd expect like for like performance for a given horsepower, except that on an inflatable with 20 horses, I wouldn't be worried about the transom overtaking me.

5- Sounds like Porta-pottie must have quite a few disgruntled, ex SIB owning Porcupines as customers.


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Hi Sharkbyte how is the quest for a big Perch going??
I have 2 of the Portabotes a 8` and a 12` the smaller being used as a tender and the 12 is my fishing boat for the Thames .
All boats are a compromise in some way price/stability/performance/storage/living space/ease of launch etc etc and most important how ell it fits the individual users requirements for the above,Use mine on the Thames and smaller lakes as well as the occasional trip to Poole Harbour and on all of these it has performed well but it isn't and never will be a sea boat or even a big water/lake boat due to very limited free board height and engine size limitations,i have had 18mph one up with gear with a 6hp pushing me on the Thames but again in flat calm conditions so they do have there limitations but it suits me fine for where i use it.
No need to Que for a slipway as you can slide them in just about anywhere and with limited parking on the Thames slipways this is a bonus plus no trailer for the diddy's to have away whilst i am out fishing ,The smaller one started life as a tender for our cruiser but we now have a narrow boat and it lives folded up on the roof as pub transport should we have to moor a long way from the nearest watering hole,have had all sorts of smaller craft Aluminium punts and boats/Dell quay Dory/grp rowing boats double skinned foam filled i have tried most and for my needs the porta bote works best plus the other half isn`t moaning about a boat in the garden/drive on a trailer.
Never really thought about a rib before but will have to reevaluate that now but don`t tell the girlfriend as she will go ape ....
They are fine on this sort of venue



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Old 29 November 2009, 17:39   #22
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Hi Sharkbyte how is the quest for a big Perch going??
I have 2 of the Portabotes a 8` and a 12` the smaller being used as a tender and the 12 is my fishing boat for the Thames .
All boats are a compromise in some way price/stability/performance/storage/living space/ease of launch etc etc and most important how ell it fits the individual users requirements for the above,Use mine on the Thames and smaller lakes as well as the occasional trip to Poole Harbour and on all of these it has performed well but it isn't and never will be a sea boat or even a big water/lake boat due to very limited free board height and engine size limitations,i have had 18mph one up with gear with a 6hp pushing me on the Thames but again in flat calm conditions so they do have there limitations but it suits me fine for where i use it.
No need to Que for a slipway as you can slide them in just about anywhere and with limited parking on the Thames slipways this is a bonus plus no trailer for the diddy's to have away whilst i am out fishing ,The smaller one started life as a tender for our cruiser but we now have a narrow boat and it lives folded up on the roof as pub transport should we have to moor a long way from the nearest watering hole,have had all sorts of smaller craft Aluminium punts and boats/Dell quay Dory/grp rowing boats double skinned foam filled i have tried most and for my needs the porta bote works best plus the other half isn`t moaning about a boat in the garden/drive on a trailer.
Never really thought about a rib before but will have to reevaluate that now but don`t tell the girlfriend as she will go ape ....
They are fine on this sort of venue



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If that's you in the pic I reckon you need your head read getting in that thing without a lifejacket...
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Vaguely off topic as usual; there's a guy near me that has the oddest clamshell dingy. It is GRP and folds back along a thwart, forming a smallish capsule. I think there are wheels and a towbar that attach to the hull? The thing takes an outboard, or get this, it has sails, after a fashion. Anyone know anything about the manufacturer. The owner doesn't use it much, looks like a death trap to me
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If that's you in the pic I reckon you need your head read getting in that thing without a lifejacket...
Yep fair comment and like most Pike anglers on inland waters its under the seat stupid yep but true sadly ,river was flat calm with no flow and if everyone that didnt wear a jacket on the Thames was stopped tommorow then no one would be on the river fella not quite the same as 4 miles out to sea is it but i take your point smiley face ....
Here is another viewpoint on the boats
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...bote-6317.html

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Yep fair comment and like most Pike anglers on inland waters its under the seat stupid yep but true sadly ,river was flat calm with no flow and if everyone that didnt wear a jacket on the Thames was stopped tommorow then no one would be on the river fella not quite the same as 4 miles out to sea is it but i take your point smiley face ....
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And welcome to Ribnet from me. If you hang around here you'll find that we're a kinda safety conscious lot. Here in Ireland there are a lot of lake boaters and like you they have a fairly relaxed attitude to personal safety ('cos it's just out there a bit, innit?). Every year we lose a few, close to shore and beside whatever boat they had. I've even seen them die in pairs. We're losing shoreanglers at a rate of about five a year.

The lifejacket under your seat is about as likely to save your life as the one under your seat on a transatlantic jet.

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The lifejacket under your seat is about as likely to save your life as the one under your seat on a transatlantic jet.


Um... sorry, but what do you mean by this

In a transatlantic jet the most likely emergencies give you time to prepare and put it on.

In a cabin pressure dump at high altitude in which case there is big bang etc etc but not much else, you put on oxygen masks, and you descend to a lower altitude. On the oxygen you have plenty of time to put your lifejacket on in preparation for the possible (but very unlikely) outcome that you have to ditch.

Another issue is a bird strike... Most transatlantic jets have four engines (A380, 747etc) and even though it is very unlikely mid channel, assuming all four engines are taken out, you will likely have the time to put you LJ on before ditching (remember the guy who ditched in the hudson). If you do not, These large modern jets (not 60s 747s) are designed to floats either infinitely, or at least for a period of minutes during which life rafts can be assembled etc.

The only other potential issue is a mechanical failure which can range from a failed engine to a (like what happened with i think 737s a few years ago) seriously f***** up aileron and rudder hydraulic actuators which began to act inversely in negative climes. In this scenario, unless the plane loses complete control and starts to roll and gets ripped up on impact you will either have time in the air, or on the water.

On the other hand, in a flimsy boat bowling along on the plane, the lifejacket under the seat is going to be of no use at all, the thing is either going to fall apart, of ur gonna flip. Both of these things happen very quickly if not instantaniously, and in this case the LJ is going to prove totally worthless.
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Actually the more I think about this port-a-bote the more I can see it's benefits. It likely is far more economical to depart in this portable sea-coffin than to purchase either a wooden casket/plot package or a cremation plan.
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Um... sorry, but what do you mean by this
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In a cabin pressure dump at high altitude in which case there is big bang etc etc but not much else, you put on oxygen masks, and you descend to a lower altitude. On the oxygen you have plenty of time to put your lifejacket on in preparation for the possible (but very unlikely) outcome that you have to ditch.
This is what they tell the customers, excellent marketing it would seem
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(remember the guy who ditched in the hudson
I do, mostly because he was the only one I'd heard of, the Miracle Pilot I think they said?
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Both of these things happen very quickly if not instantaniously, and in this case the LJ is going to prove totally worthless.
Not necessarily. If we apply the odds of a safe water jet landing to this scenario, we might see the boat flip and the lifejacket box hit the still spinning prop which would disperse the contents in the air, the lifejacket parachuting down onto the upheld arms of the distressed boater, thus proving it a useful strategy.



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