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Old 21 January 2015, 08:07   #21
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What would be a ballpark estimate of how much it'd cost to have a Futura re-glued by a pro after it starts pulling apart in 10 years?
10 to 14 hours to delaminate, clean, prep, refit, and reglue a transom.


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I don't think the Chinese rebadges really have the time in service to be ab;e to compare to the "classic" brands.
There's only a handful of Chinese inflatable boat producers. The major problem I've seen with off-brand boats is poorly bonded thermoplastic rubber-to-pvc. Also, cloth components (Strings, lifelines, seat retaining straps) have poor UV resistance and disintegrate in about 1-2 years.
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Old 21 January 2015, 12:28   #22
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10 to 14 hours to delaminate, clean, prep, refit, and reglue a transom.
I have close to 40 hours into removing the floor and transom of my boat. Even though I own plenty of power tools I choose to remove all the glue by hand (Did power sand the transom), so it took a lot of time getting everything spotless. Plus there were more than a few other items that needed fixing and service. If I did it again I am sure I could cut about 1/3 of my time and using power tools even more (Although if it were my own boat I would do all the prep by hand again).
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Old 21 January 2015, 12:53   #23
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Hey Kestrel 452.....I think I have your boat problem COMPLETELY solved!!!! Ever heard of Sea bright inflatables out of Nova Scotia Canada??? This company has a great owner, thermobonded seams, top of the line materials, can get hypalon, OR PVC, ....will ship to United States reasonable. I should know... I have the 12 ft. 6 in. Boat (PVC), and never looked back. Has held up well for almost 3 seasons now. 5 year warranty. But the most important thing is......inside space right??? Well....compare all the other company's, and then look at Sea bright... No one has a 9 ft. Length, inside, and a 3 ft. 2 inch width inside.....in a 12 ft. 6 boat Anywhere!!!!!!! Call them up.... look at there website. You won't be disappointed. And you will save about $2000.00 over that Zodiac to boot. Good luck. Jrzmotorcycle.
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Well I called up a whole bunch of the dealers on Zodiac's list top performing dealers, they pretty much told me the Futura is *not* a boat that lends itself to portability and urged me to look at the 360 Fastroller instead. I think that is sound advice and will save me $2500, pretty much settled on that now.
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Old 21 January 2015, 13:03   #25
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Sill look at seabright.

Give Sea bright a look too. You won't be disappointed. Look at the length and width of the inside of each boat and compare. Most only have a 30 inch inside width. This is 38 inches. Makes a huge difference!!!! The inside length too. 9 ft. In a zodiac???? Not happening!!! You need all the inside room you can get in a inflate able boat....TRUST ME !!! Joe.
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I have close to 40 hours into removing the floor and transom of my boat. Even though I own plenty of power tools I choose to remove all the glue by hand (Did power sand the transom), so it took a lot of time getting everything spotless. Plus there were more than a few other items that needed fixing and service. If I did it again I am sure I could cut about 1/3 of my time and using power tools even more (Although if it were my own boat I would do all the prep by hand again).
I wouldn't doubt it. Every transom I've done has been a pain in the butt and required additional prep due to accumulated biofouling.

But, that would be "book hours" I listed. Actual vs billable is a whole different ball game.
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Old 21 January 2015, 18:53   #27
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Interesting point regarding inflation / deflation after every outing causes stress to the joints. It is very rare for me to leave a boat inflated unless on holiday next to the lake of course but very pleased to say that I have never had any issues with seams.

Having no experience of this problem leaves me unable to make an informed comment but I would ask a question, if an inflatable boat is designed to be folded away after use and fits in the car boot, as many adverts have done over the years so with that in mind why would the seams fail.

I find this rather interesting.

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The Seabright 380 air floor looks a little roomier than the Cadet 360, a little heavier though at 130lbs vs 97lbs for the Zodiac. How does the quality compare between the two? The Seabright is $700-800 cheaper which is nice.
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Old 21 January 2015, 20:14   #29
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@philpot. I never had a seam problem. The only issue i had was glue failure around transom area including handles becoming unglued.
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Interesting point regarding inflation / deflation after every outing causes stress to the joints. It is very rare for me to leave a boat inflated unless on holiday next to the lake of course but very pleased to say that I have never had any issues with seams.

Having no experience of this problem leaves me unable to make an informed comment but I would ask a question, if an inflatable boat is designed to be folded away after use and fits in the car boot, as many adverts have done over the years so with that in mind why would the seams fail.

I find this rather interesting.

Phil
I find it worrying as the main reason I went from a hard hull to a sib is the portability
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