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Old 17 December 2018, 15:20   #11
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You'll have to relax a little GTgamo. There is excellent experience on this forum and a little thread wander will often contain really useful information... if not totally specific to you it may be a great resource for others to look up in the future.

With 11 posts so far you're lucky we aren't already on 2-stroke vs 4-stroke!

Can I flip this a little. Because we rarely have folks wanting a SIB much above 4m on here it would be great info sharing to know if you intend to trailer and what storage advantage it might give you over a hard boat... what is its particular use etc. It may also help us to know which of your potential SIB choices (re quality, build type, features etc) would suit whatever its use would be.
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Old 17 December 2018, 15:24   #12
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Old 17 December 2018, 16:50   #13
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So far youíve given no clues as to what type of use, inland/coastal waters, load capacity or even what planet your from.

Judging from the makes quoted assume your US/Canada based.
Have you looked at the Mercury Quicksilver HD470
https://www.mercurymarine.com/en-gb/...om/heavy-duty/

Hopefully some members from your side of the pond may be along with more relevant advice. The very large sibs are not that common over here, and not well suited to our coastal waters with typical UK short chop and swell...plus our small vehicles of course!

Good luck with your quest.
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Old 18 December 2018, 04:46   #14
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have a look on the thread achilles sgx 122 vs defender 380 some manufacturer site links on there personally having owned a 5 m sib and driven an 11m sib i see where your coming from and it fits in with what your needs are.
mercury/ quicksilver do a 4.70 m boat as do others
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Old 18 December 2018, 05:02   #15
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I think I'd agree if you can't justify a Zodiac Milpro SIB and are wary of a basic Chinese one like the Saturn have a look at the Mercury 4.7m as it's well proven and backed by a major company.

As far as I can see the Stryker is a generic (Chinese?) SIB with a few interesting but not essential design features (some I'd rather not have) and loads of boys toys "bits" stuck on it to justify it's massive price. It looks as if you could get 3 Saturns for the price of a Stryker??

The Stryker does have the stand out feature of thermowelded tubes but remember the floor, protection patches and transom will still be glued so the first point of failure. I'd also wonder if wherever it's made do they have enough experience of thermowelding yet... Zodiac have decades of experience with this.
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Old 18 December 2018, 05:55   #16
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ok its a foot shorter but it's a big boat there's a new boat coming out with speed tubes but as yet not much info this side of the pond this is all i can find.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MERCURY-Q...h=item283eadf8
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Old 19 December 2018, 09:58   #17
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Thanks all for the suggestion as they relate to the AVON and Mercury options, does anyone here have any approximate idea on cost for these options? - As far as why do i want a sib - well as explained originally - A sib compared to rib - A sib can be folded and stored/transported - in a box, a rib by design - cannot. Why do i need to fit my watercraft in a box. Well if i owned a C-130 - i wouldn't need a sib or a rib - as I'd put one of my exiting fiberglass boats and trailer in the cargo bay. Will i trailer this sib, I'm not sure yet, a trailer may, or may not be needed, that depends on the inflation method that i go with after finding a suitable vessel. As it relates to a MilPro Zodiac - Ok - sure - can someone here tell me where i could purchase a new one for 3K US? I'll even bust my budget by 1K, and pay a finders fee. (As would anyone else.) I'd love to own one, just like i'd love to own a Bugatti - but there is a large price difference between a budget pvc boat for 2-3K US, as opposed to a Zodiac MilPro that starts at 20K US.
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Old 19 December 2018, 10:32   #18
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Thanks all for the suggestion as they relate to the AVON and Mercury options, does anyone here have any approximate idea on cost for these options?

Well if i owned a C-130 - i wouldn't need a sib or a rib - as I'd put one of my exiting fiberglass boats and trailer in the cargo bay.

Will i trailer this sib, I'm not sure yet, a trailer may, or may not be needed, that depends on the inflation method that i go with after finding a suitable vessel
Sorry, no idea on Mercury costs in whichever country your based. Know exactly how much I'd need to pay in the UK. They are US based so should be relatively easy to contact a dealer.

Rather than a C-130 you'd be better off with a Chinook and just drop it straight into the sea/lake/river/pond.

Interested how you envisage launching a sib of this magnitude without a trailer. With a 470 tipping the scales at 160kg and suitable tiller controlled 50hp motor at around 110kg, add some fuel and basic kit and you'll soon be over 350kg.
Think I'd need a platoon to assist launching.
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Old 19 December 2018, 12:11   #19
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I'm happy to accept you want a SIB rather than a GRP RIB with console and a lot of kit fitted so you have easier storage and handling at the waterside/launching etc... but if you were going to trailer there might be merit in an alloy hull lightweight RIB with tiller outboard which can weigh as little as a SIB... is very durable and easier to store than a full blown RIB. In fact if you happen to use a large pickup it may be possible to carry such an alloy hull craft on a purpose made loadspace/roof rack and not need a trailer.

I know Milpro are huge prices but from your initial comments I was just saying it appeared you were to drawn to such a craft (as you liked the Stryker type) and they are the ultimate SIB to perform at the lengths you are considering... I think many of us are concerned any lesser brand... and particularly the very cheapest... might not be entirely satisfactory at these lengths.

You can easily find the prices of any make/model by using Google from you home country/area... we don't know where you are located.

Is the amount £3k US you mention your budget for the boat... that Stryker is double that I think??

Regarding the possibility of folks advising you on SIB choice we do need to know the type of use... inland lake, sea etc. How many folks... or how much gear gear... you will carry and type of trips... a few hours at the beach... hunting trips... several days wild camping??

In fact would a Jon boat suit your need? Cheapish... go better than a SIB for any given outboard size... very rugged... easy to store??
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Thanks all for the suggestion as they relate to the AVON and Mercury options, does anyone here have any approximate idea on cost for these options? - As far as why do i want a sib - well as explained originally - A sib compared to rib - A sib can be folded and stored/transported - in a box, a rib by design - cannot. Why do i need to fit my watercraft in a box. Well if i owned a C-130 - i wouldn't need a sib or a rib - as I'd put one of my exiting fiberglass boats and trailer in the cargo bay. Will i trailer this sib, I'm not sure yet, a trailer may, or may not be needed, that depends on the inflation method that i go with after finding a suitable vessel. As it relates to a MilPro Zodiac - Ok - sure - can someone here tell me where i could purchase a new one for 3K US? I'll even bust my budget by 1K, and pay a finders fee. (As would anyone else.) I'd love to own one, just like i'd love to own a Bugatti - but there is a large price difference between a budget pvc boat for 2-3K US, as opposed to a Zodiac MilPro that starts at 20K US.
Where are you located? Your initial post neglected to mention a budget of $3k for a new SIB.

In the USA you can sometimes find surplus zodiac milpro sibs for your budget (without motor/trailer usually) or find one that needs some glue work and go from there. My brother in law owns a zodiac mk3 that needs a seam re-glued that would fall in your budget.
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