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Old 26 February 2013, 09:34   #11
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Years ago, we felt that 35hp was too slow for our MKIIIGR. Also, it cavitated (ventilated?) almost all the time, even travelling in a straight line. We upgraded to a 55hp and it was a better fit.

My current new WB465 is basically the same boat.

The trouble I'm having is that while I'd like to get 40hp+, those engines weigh a lot, and I'm not trailering this boat. A 30hp ETEC Evinrude is only 146 lbs, but I'm wondering if I'll be disappointed.

Any experience/advice/ideas?
Not trailering means each day mount/dismount? Or, as me, first summer day mount, last summer day dismount, moor at the beach/harbour? Even in my case, you can crack your back the very first summer day. I do need help to mount/launch/recover/clean/fold.

A WB465 sounds like the hell to load (maybe 70kg sponsons?)
If you can handle that (I expect with someone else help), you can handle a 70kg engine.

Which is not trivial. Beyond 25hp 2 stroke (or 20hp 4 stroke), engines come with battery and electric start (more weight). Weight and power are not scaled linear.

Me, I rather have holidays without hernia.
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Old 26 February 2013, 09:36   #12
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Years ago, we felt that 35hp was too slow for our MKIIIGR. Also, it cavitated (ventilated?) almost all the time, even travelling in a straight line. We upgraded to a 55hp and it was a better fit.

My current new WB465 is basically the same boat.

The trouble I'm having is that while I'd like to get 40hp+, those engines weigh a lot, and I'm not trailering this boat. A 30hp ETEC Evinrude is only 146 lbs, but I'm wondering if I'll be disappointed.

Any experience/advice/ideas?

Beyond 4 meter, long shaft is almost mandatory. Long shaft = more weight.
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...and 2 stroke is easier to pull start rather than 4 stroke.
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Thanks Dave (clydeoutboards) for the info.

Interestingly, while Evinrude claims that 2-strokes are lighter than 3 strokes, that seems to be true for the 25-30 hp engines. From 40-60 hp, the 4 strokes I looked at (Merc and Yamaha) are similar or lighter than the Evinrude ETECs.
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What type of vehicle will you hauling the folded boat in? If you will be using a pickup truck, you should consider getting on of those small foldable pick up truck cranes. Between that and launching wheels, it would expand your outboard options considerably.
Now THAT is an interesting idea!
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Old 27 February 2013, 02:23   #16
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Now THAT is an interesting idea!
My head is full of them.


http://www.spitzlift.com/

http://stoaway.net/models.html

http://www.westernmule.com/pickup-truck-cranes.html

http://www.globalindustrial.ca/c/mat...ckup-truck-jib
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if you go for the 40hp have a look at the below table:

A Honda 40Hp is only 96kg, and is a 4 stroke so if weight is the biggest factor then I would also check Yam, Mariner, Suzi and Tohatsu as these might be even lighter than the Honda

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Ah but you're forgetting the fact that a 4/ is much less practical than a 2/ in this situation because the etec can be laid in any orientation whereas the 4/ has to be put away in a certain way to prevent the oil flooding through.

The 40/50/60 etecs are not as light in comparison to 4/s as evinrude makes out. It's only really in the larger hp ranges that the lightness really comes into its own. How about a Tohatsu 50 TLDI at 93kg?
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Ah but you're forgetting the fact that a 4/ is much less practical than a 2/ in this situation because the etec can be laid in any orientation whereas the 4/ has to be put away in a certain way to prevent the oil flooding through.

The 40/50/60 etecs are not as light in comparison to 4/s as evinrude makes out. It's only really in the larger hp ranges that the lightness really comes into its own. How about a Tohatsu 50 TLDI at 93kg?
+1 for the Tohatsu. We have sold a fair few of these and date there have been no problems at all.

re the 4 strokes : on this i disagree as all that matters is what side you put it down and if you are laying it down i.e. like a 2 stroke why not just put it down on the same side? and the honda has nice lumps that stop it from being scratched unlike the 2 stroke!
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Each summer I have to go donwstairs and upstairs with mine...no crane for that.
Engines usually have a ring to hang on to a crane, placed down the cover.

Weight balance is also an issue.
My BF20 Honda is quite light, but the head is much heavier than the leg and that makes it more difficult to handle.

Also, take into consideration the way you store/service your engine.
I use a modified Rooteq trolley (which I also use to move the engine downstairs/upstairs...).
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A 40, 50 and 60 ETEC all weigh the same, about 240 lbs.
Too heavy to be lifting on and off all the time, IMHO.
My advice: Go with 50 or 60 and get a trailer.
I just got a 50 ETEC. I chose it because it was a good deal, and the 60 has an internal water valve/solenoid setup that I thought could prove to be an unnecessary complication.
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