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Old 15 June 2013, 03:26   #21
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If you loose a hand or your sight trying one out would you be so keen to use one ? It is also against the law to use one in a Non-Emergency situation. Flares can be extremely dangerous, and you must never dump anywhere the public can access. Contact your nearest MRCC and they will give you details of how & where to dispose. Under no circumstances risk a limb or sight to see if these still work.
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Old 15 June 2013, 03:54   #22
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an example of how things are going to rats**t! We used to take in flares from everyone at our coastguard station, even went to collect them from some vessels as a service which got rid of potentially dangerous items from the environment. Then we were told that we couldnt take in those from commercial ventures, so we stopped taking them from both the big well run ferries where no expense was spared and all regulations followed, but also from the scruffy little fishing boats hanging onto a living by the skin of their teeth and cutting corners wherever possible. I wonder what happened to their flares after we stopped taking them. Our explosives store used to fill with flares and then the Ordnance would dispose of them. On occasion by controlled explosion on site (can I push the bar down please guv). We still took leisure user flares in but now according to that link flares have to go to the MRSC which is sixty miles away. It aint gonna happen is it?! At best flares are gonna end up in a weighted bag at sea which is apparently illegal, and may well end up with pyros being washed up on the beach (to join those that already come up from munitions dumped by the authorities at the end of WW2) or perhaps they will find their way to the local landfill by some means. Short sighted cost savings measures with no thought for the consequences-hurrah for austerity and saving a few bob!
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Also Some out of date flares can loose their colour with age ,
You may find especially with Red/Maroon para/rockets that they may burn with a pale pink to white or even a very pale yellow that's if the parachute even deploys
some older parachute /drogues are made from cotton that over time can go stiff in the rocket tube making them stay bundled up or don't unravel quick enough so the flare sets it on fire .
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I think you'll be fine with the Muller Corner, when you buy things with a two of three week sell by time then there will be a few days cushion, never understood why bottled water has a use by date.
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I think you'll be fine with the Muller Corner...
In case of emergency: eat the Muller quickly for sustenance, use the corner pot as a bailer, and the shiny lid as a rescue signal mirror?
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never understood why bottled water has a use by date.
It's a fascinating subject. There are lots of reasons for various sell by dates. Check fizzy drinks - the lo-cal versions have about half the life span. In the case of water, there is probably a max shelf life for drinks and they can't exceed that by law. Patently, so long as it's sterile, it should last for ever. However, they MAY have concerns about leachates from the plastic bottles building up over time.

I'm a big fan of scoffing out of date drinks and food. Mrs willk lives in fear of the stuff - she'll watch a yogurt until midnight on it's "last day" and then bin it...

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the fridge is fulla outa date stuff on the boat. Its an unwritten law onboard here that if its in date have a scrat round for sommat older and eat that instead! Its also good practise on here to examine the slice of bread before toasting to see if ya wanna eat whats growing on it. One way of getting your 5 a day of green stuff though!
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In case of emergency: eat the Muller quickly for sustenance, use the corner pot as a bailer, and the shiny lid as a rescue signal mirror?
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However, they MAY have concerns about leachates from the plastic bottles building up over time.
I think that is the primary reason for expiry dates on bottled water, which makes me wonder why people would pay such a premium for the stuff which has more toxicity than than most tap water.
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I keep current ones on board to keep me legal, as well as the older expired ones which I intend to use first. I had to use them in a Pan Pan event a few years ago. My engine wouldn't start and I couldn't be seen in 6 ft. seas of lake Huron, as a towboat approached.
The first old one fired, then I had 2 duds before the fourth one fired and finally got seen by my rescuer.
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