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Old 10 March 2012, 12:41   #1
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non inflating honwave - confused!!

Greetings!

Just picked up a new honwave 35 and honda 20hp tiller. Nice little setup.

Issue. It would be really nice to use the boat actually on the water - but I am SURE it needs inflating!

Foot pump supplied has 2 outputs, low and high pressure. Instructions say pump up to half pressure with the low pressure.... then you guessed it.... change the hose over to high pressure and complete.

Brilliant. I can do that I thought.

However.... the low pressure port is always open, so changing the hose to high pressure and pumping just results in a lot of air exiting the low pressure hole. No blank plug, no change over valve, nothing at all. Oh dear. That's not going to work.

Phoned Viking Marine in goole who I bought it from a few days ago, useless. They are a new honda dealer and insulted my intelligence by reading the same pointless paragraph from the manual that I had (surprisingly) already read. They confessed to not knowing how to inflate it, didnt have a clue and they would ring honda after the weekend. I didnt even get any instructions from them, had to get them off the net. When I asked where the instructions were they said "Arent they in the box?" Well I never! I would have never thought of looking in the box! No, they are not in the bleeping box!!!!!

To say I feel ripped off is an understatement. Absolutely no support at all from the dealer, clearly honda dont give them any training or product familiarisation at all. God forbid I get an engine problem....

Does anyone know how to blow this boat up other than with dynamite????

Any help appreciated. thank you.


cheers

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Old 10 March 2012, 13:04   #2
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have you tried turning the middle of the valve on the boat ,some valves you can lock open to help with deflating
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Old 10 March 2012, 13:26   #3
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If it's like my old Bravo s-stage pump, there are 2 separate bellows in the unit. The larger one is the LP section, and from what you say, it works OK. The HP section is inside the LP chamber, a smaller chamber (essentially giving you a larger mechanical advantage.) While using the HP section, the LP section is vented so it's not working against you (In truth, the opposite is true as well, but the HP output volume is so small that you don't notice.)

Connect the HP section, take the hose and close it off with the palm of your hand, and stomp on it. You should feel air coming out. If not, the HP side is screwed.

Enjoy the boat;

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Old 10 March 2012, 13:30   #4
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have you tried turning the middle of the valve on the boat ,some valves you can lock open to help with deflating
I can;t even get the thing to inflate with that pump, deflating is a dream away!!!!
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Old 10 March 2012, 13:31   #5
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That sounds right.
Pushing the pin in and turning it will lock the valve open but why don't you remove the hose from the valve before you switch to the other port on the pump? That way when you remove the hose the valve should close, if it doesn't then you probably have the pin pushed in and twisted Locking the valve open.
Hope this helps.
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Old 10 March 2012, 13:32   #6
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thank you I will try as directed.

I can't help but surmise that this is not a bad boat, which is supplied with a practical joke pump. Shame on a name like honda. It is enough of a pain in the rear that I can honestly say I would not have bought the boat.

How it will ever get up to high pressure I don't know, none of the valves seal properly, and leak air like mad once up to the higher range of the low pressure side.

I don't think this bodes well....

thanks for the pointer.
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no no no, the problem I have is nothing coming out of the higher pressure side of the pump. Or if it is coming out it is so slow that it is beyond the means of human senses to detect it.

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Old 10 March 2012, 13:38   #8
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Ok, just ran outside and got the pump.

put my hand over the low pressure outlet.

Put my full body weight (hey I know I need to lost half a stone) on the pump and guess what came out of the high pressure side......

Not a thing. Pump stayed inflated except for a squeek of air under the palm of my hand.

Oh dear. What total junk. Very disappointed.
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In order to really enjoy setting up and using your new boat maybe a nice electric pump from Bravo is in order? Would make filling much easier.
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I really resent having no option but to pay 150 for an additional item because the one supplied doesnt work.

I don't think this is going to end well, I have tried the pump again and cannot even get a good seal between the hose and the boat...so I have little hope of ever inflating the piece of junk.

It has been an expensive mistake.
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