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Old 24 April 2014, 11:18   #11
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I am grateful for advice, have already hot all watching on flea bay and the like, if you know any other sources?
My Bombard 380 package ..in the for sale section ?
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Old 24 April 2014, 13:03   #12
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Peter has a perfect "performance" outfit there and one that would tempt me if I could lift a 25hp down a beach.

In about two weeks I'll be selling a cracking example of an alloy floor SIB. It's a 2,5yr old Honwave T35AE bought new by me and still as new with all documentation and some useful extras like a genuine Honwave all over cover and seat bag plus a second seat. Outboard is a mint 2001 Mariner 15 2-stroke with all documentation from new.

I'm not trying to say it's what you need but an outfit of that type should be on your short list.

Ask around about both the Honwave and Mariner 15 them pm me if you are anywhere close to Cambridgeshire and at all interested.
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Old 24 April 2014, 13:28   #13
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Both the above offers are awesome rigs - like Fenlander I am tempted by the Bombard (and have been for years). David (Fenlander) is too modest to say it but his is the perfect all round medium size SIB outfit and having purchased my first SIB and engine from him through this forum you will not have a better buying experience.

It has to be said if you have the opportunity to purchase through this forum from an established member and enthusiast then that is by *far* the best route.

Other avenues are Boats and Outboards, Gumtree, local ads, Apollo Duck, Friday Ads etc, etc.

Just be careful as you will be exposed to all the usual shysters, scammers and outlaws as well as the genuine sellers...
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Old 25 April 2014, 14:37   #14
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Blimey, the yam and engine didn't even get bid above 1100?!!

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Old 25 April 2014, 15:07   #15
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You could go down that route (ie buying a brand new generic, badged, Chinese made lesser known make and then find a separate engine) but that would ignore all the advice regarding best value/lack of depreciation/quality etc...

Be sure to check out the numerous other topics on the exact same subject over the past years in this forum including the hundreds of discussions on 'airfloor vs solid floor' and which one may suit you best.
We have owned an excell 290 for 10 years one of the very first imported and it has been used and abused on beaches during caravan hols with the kids then used as a tender to our cruiser
Not loved it left it lying on the foredeck for weeks and stuffed it in its bag unwashed over winter
It still looks good with no leaks and no dodgey seams
Only just replaced it with a ribeye aluminum hulled rib cos its lighter
So any one who knocks one doesnt know what they are like
Every bit as good as the 'better' known makes imho
If you want new shiney and cheap id reccomend one
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Old 25 April 2014, 15:42   #16
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Hi, not knocking it. Just that an established make will always hold it's value better and be easier to sell. As with cars depreciation is generally the biggest cost of ownership and an initially cheaper buy may often lose more than you save.

I own a Chinese made Suzumar SIB and the quality and strength of build is definitely above the Euro boats.
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Old 26 April 2014, 04:06   #17
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Gandan has PM'd me as I mentioned my outfit that would be for sale soon. He's given a bit of extra info on his needs and I thought I'd post my reply to him so info worth sharing isn't lost to PM's and others can chuck in their opinions....

With your combined weight of 36st and a bit of fishing kit you will probably find an 8/10hp will not plane a SIB and even a 15 could struggle unless conditions are perfect. You would need a 20/25hp to get lively on the plane performance.

So if you don't want the weight of a 20/25 outboard, or the cost of the popular 15hp size with no guarantee of speed I'd accept non-plane performance and go for a 8hp which will push against the tide OK at around 8kts.

For fishing I'd look at alloy or wood floor only.

So it seems a cheaper outfit might suit you. Like this 8hp Suzuki at 710 and this Avon at 381.

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If found as an outfit in one listing such slightly smaller engines on older boats can often be chanced on at even lower prices.
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Old 26 April 2014, 04:28   #18
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What about this bit though in that eBay Avon ad:

"I have used a 15 hp engine on her and she will do 30 knots."

???

A 3.4m Hypalon and wooden floored boat that does 35mph with a 15?!

I want one!
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I have no connection with Excel but they are Bristish made and equally as good as the top names often touted. Certanly better than the chinese no names.

But then again I drive a Skoda not an Audi for the same reason. Big brand quality but not paying for a badge.

I bought a 2nd hand Excel and it is great.
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I have no connection with Excel but they are Bristish made and equally as good as the top names often touted. Certanly better than the chinese no names.

But then again I drive a Skoda not an Audi for the same reason. Big brand quality but not paying for a badge.

I bought a 2nd hand Excel and it is great.
Sorry to spoil your day,we have owned our 290 excell for 10 years and like you I rate it as good as any other make on the market

BUT they are made in China
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