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Old 10 May 2016, 07:22   #11
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for your anchor hossbox feeder under 20 heavy duty plastic

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Old 10 May 2016, 07:33   #12
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for your anchor hossbox feeder under 20 heavy duty plastic

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Doesn't everything just bounce out of this ?
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Old 10 May 2016, 08:02   #13
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Doesn't everything just bounce out of this ?
no didn't move at all and i was in some rough stuff in Scotland last week if you were worried just make a lid out of white PVC direct plastics sell it, hold it on with a bungee in the middle.

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Old 10 May 2016, 15:40   #14
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What I'd be really interested to hear peoples thoughts on is whether leaving it for a few days rolled up in the back of the van will be a problem ? (thats straight from the sea)
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No problem at all.

Any inflatable is best stored clean and dry but nothing bad is going to happen to it in the space of a few days. When I'm using a SIB on and off for a week or so I certainly wouldn't worry about doing anything other than rolling it up and sticking it in the van. When I've finished with it for a while I'll always inflate it at home, clean it off and check everything is OK, then pack it away when it's dry.

It's good to take the floor out of an Aerotec every now and then to clean out anything that has got underneath, but unless you're getting loads of sand and shingle aboard there's no need to do this every time.

That should make using it a bit less of a faff!
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Old 10 May 2016, 16:58   #16
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Shame that you have a degree of disappointment with the Aerotec Sean but as you hint there will be an element of psychology here... you've been through the mill with these three and to find this last "perfect" one had the wheel attachment issues and now the bow bag rip... well it's enough to justifiably put you off them for life.

To address your issues...

Having the Bravo pump HP fail is getting into the realms of "you couldn't make it up" but trust me from experience of multiple SIBs the Aerotec setup should be an absolute doddle after any alloy floor model.

All SIB valves will leak by a little until the cap is put on so you should be able to put that Zodiac supplied Bravo gauge on the valve and in a matter of seconds it will register. Well mine does and the only thing that would stop this would be if the rubber one way flap valve was missing.

You will have read my personal thoughts on how the bow bag looks great but isn't much use to us... but it should last at least one outing!

Re pressures I have to say while they are important in my experience the Aerotec is the least sensitive air floor SIB to flex issues if the pressure is a bit low. Last year on holiday a valve issue lost us 30% pressure in one floor panel half way out and we completed the day without bothering to mess with it as the performance was largely OK. Try that with a flat floor type and it's like piloting a jelly.

In fact Mrs Fenlander happened to comment today (thinking back to yesterday's outing) how in use you never really think of the Aerotec floor as an air type because to all intents it acts as if rigid.

Re speed yes the Aerotec could be a couple of Kts down on your old flatter floor Zodiac with the same outboard... but nothing in the scheme of things.

Re stability I sort of know what you mean... the most stable SIB we've owned was a 3.5m alloy floor Honwave... it's not that the Aerotec is unstable but it just doesn't feel planted not having the heavy alloy floor low down. However... you are going out one up?? Most SIBs and in our experience particularly the Aerotec prefer one extra crew forward to bring the nose down. Also the Aerotec V-hull ability to fairly softly carve through waves is massively improved when it's carrying some weight... one up it tends to bounce off them with Max's warning re the bow lifting too much being very appropriate.

Re ventilation and transom shims etc that will be trial and error particular to your outboard... I really can't belive my luck in finding the DF20 Suzuki (with our setup) was splash free from day one.

Well at least you appreciated the light weight when recovering... but as Stig says you should be finding far more to like than that or you could have saved 1000 by buying a conventional air floor Zodiac.

As JK says if using the boat for a few days just clean it up after a week or so at the end of the period. I think it's leaving them for months at a time full of sand, seawater and perhaps even spilt pop/fuel etc that spoils them.

Our use is mostly one full day and then not for a couple of weeks or more so I properly clean after each use within a couple of days. Leave it in the garden upside down if wet then on a dry day pack it away to go back on the garage shelf.

BTW I agree with you re tiller extensions. I have one and use very infrequently. Makes me feel a little remote from the outboard, spoils a tight turn and they are at risk of coming off making for a real scare. I far prefer to send out the press gang for at least one crew member.

Hope there's something in that lot to help. The Aerotec is currently the best SIB by a mile for our use, load, outboard size, trip type, usual sea conditions, car pack arrangements etc... but it's not for everyone.
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So why oh why do we still like these damned Aerotec's?
Overpriced, ridiculous transom splash, no oars just silly little paddles with no straps to secure them, transom falls off and floors fall out on their 10th birthday, poorly fitting floors, dubious build quality of late, and now to cap it all they're not even 3.8m long. ☹️

Oh yes I remember now. When many sibs, and those new fangled folding boats, are backing off in typical UK coastal swell and chop, we're still on the power with a huge grin on our faces. 😀
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Thanks for everyones thoughts/opinions.

I intend to keep persevering with the Aerotec, I agree some of my utter disappointment may just be psychological, hopefully this will fade if I get some trouble free use out of it
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All SIB valves will leak by a little until the cap is put on so you should be able to put that Zodiac supplied Bravo gauge on the valve and in a matter of seconds it will register. Well mine does and the only thing that would stop this would be if the rubber one way flap valve was missing.

I have two Bravo gauges that came with the boat, Zodiac gave me a spare. Neither one registers without pumping air through them and when you stop pumping air through them they stop registering. Are these two defective gauges ? More utter shit from Zodiac, why does this not surprise me lol and you are right you couldn't make this up, Zodiac quality is an absolute joke, they should be ashamed.
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So why oh why do we still like these damned Aerotec's?
Overpriced, ridiculous transom splash, no oars just silly little paddles with no straps to secure them, transom falls off and floors fall out on their 10th birthday, poorly fitting floors, dubious build quality of late, and now to cap it all they're not even 3.8m long. ☹️

Oh yes I remember now. When many sibs, and those new fangled folding boats, are backing off in typical UK coastal swell and chop, we're still on the power with a huge grin on our faces. 😀
This wasn't my experience the other day, I posted a picture of the sea, not sure you'd really be able to tell the conditions from the pictures. In my old boat this would have been perfect, not a white cap in sight but some decent sized waves to go and jump/play with. The aerotec was genuinely scary, felt very unstable and after a gust of wind lifting me as I jumped over a wave I called it a day. I guess its a boat that you can't really use 1 up.
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