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Old 15 February 2014, 06:18   #61
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Having studied a few YouTube videos of similar Honwaves on the move in the chop the splash up at the rear comes up to the underside of the rear carry handles.


I have found the sea is in constant change ..even in a calm day. From my experience of SIBS..they are "wet" boats so expect water over the sides. It doesn't remain at a level below the side trims on the boats..not on my boats anyhoo. That is why it is also important to have a means of bailing it out with a bucket or self bailers etc.

I dont have any photos of waves coming over the sides..but this photo shows a bit of spray being thrown up on a calm day..with no swell or white caps. The front of my boat on the plane is a lot highter than the rear end ..so I suspect you might get waves hitting..not only your bracket but also your engine cover.

A big wave.. hitting that size of surface area.. plus the leverage of the side arm mounted to a ply transom ... might just burst the wood ?
As mentioned..I could very well be wrong.. but satisfy yourself that everything is ok..in safe waters first.



Bass Stalker..its a 3.3 Mariner 2 strokes. Standard shaft..and it pushes it along great at displacement speed.. ideal for trolling lures for mackerel or pollack .. oh..and I sometimes accidentally get sea trouts too... although they are always put back
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Old 15 February 2014, 06:43   #62
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A couple of observations for the OP.....


Does the bracket touch the tubes at any point? It won't take long to rub through the tube material.

The other is, why port side? Wouldn't it be better starboard so the tiller is within comfortable reach?

From what I can see you would need to sit on the port tube to operate the aux and coupled with the overhanging weight of the engine I suspect you will have too much weight on one side of the boat.
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Old 15 February 2014, 06:55   #63
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The other is, why port side? Wouldn't it be better starboard so the tiller is within comfortable reach?
I suspect that the answer is because the fuel on off and gear lever would then be out of reach..so easier to have the tiller on the outside.

Its also worth the OP remembering that it is easy to attach things in a stationary environment..but it wouldnt be so easy holding the aux off the side of the boat to slot it into an arm ..when everything is bouncing around in a swell. Man and engine overboard because of loss of balance ..could be worst case senario
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Thanks for the feedback guys. Good to look at things from a different perspective!
I mounted it on the port side as I sit on the starboard tube when operating the main 20hp engine.
With my 18 stone, fuel tank and large box on the starboard side it elevates the port side higher out of the water thus assisting engine clearance from the water.
If it were mounted starboard the additional weight would push the mount and engine down even closer to the water when on the move.
Also I steer the main engine with my left hand sitting on my box or on the tube, so sitting on the port tube steering left handed is not a problem as the engine is close enough to hand to effectively steer.
In fact the tiller would have hit me in the back/side if I had mounted it starboard side.

It is my intention to mount the engine as close to the tube as is possible without it rubbing.
The propeller is way low enough not to hit the tube.......... you def don't want that!!!
Also by mounting it as close to the tube as possible it will keep the engine power head partially mounted over the tube, less exposed to waves.
The engine can also be slightly tilted to further protect it from waves.
It is not my intention to be flying along at WOT with the little Suzuki being thrashed about on the mount, I don't think the tilt mechanism would last too long.
I have taken onboard comments of veteran poster Wilk and will use two lugs on the Suzuki engine bracket to tension a ratchet strap around the propeller shaft to stop it bobbing up and down.
Within 300 yards of port where I launch 95% of the time I'm idling along with the 20hp trolling some lures or drifting or just get anchored up in a favourable spot.
For anyone who knows the coastline around the Mull of Galloway the will know that you can't row a SIB against the exceptionally strong tides.
It is my intention to have the aux mounted should I have a break down.
Then I would drop it down and go at slow displacement speeds and probably troll back to port.
I intend to fully / cautiously test things.
However if it is going to hit the water I will keep the aux safety wrapped and strapped inside the Sib and in the event of needing it in an emergency I will attach the sleeved mounting bracket and the aux.
I fancy my chances mounting a 12.5kg aux in a chop over trying to wrestle a 54kg main engine into the Sib with a view to fixing it or mounting the aux to the transom.
Time will tell if it has been a worthwhile project........?
At least it ain't cost me anything.......... all been done with scrap off cuts from work and in company time with company tools ssssssshhhhhh!!!!!
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For anyone who knows the coastline around the Mull of Galloway the will know that you can't row a SIB against the exceptionally strong tides.
Yup... I agree entirely ..the tide race off the Mull of Galloway is not a place for an engine breakdown ..with no an auxilliary to keep you out of it.

This is the tide race on a calm day. My brother and his friend in their kayaks give a sense of scale to the standing waves.

Certainly not a place for the faint of heart in a SIB if the wind gets up against tide.

Good tope fishing area though





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Yup... I agree entirely ..the tide race off the Mull of Galloway is not a place for an engine breakdown ..with no an auxilliary to keep you out of it.

This is the tide race on a calm day. My brother and his friend in their kayaks give a sense of scale to the standing waves.

Certainly not a place for the faint of heart in a SIB if the wind gets up against tide.

Good tope fishing area though
Gurnard, your pics show a similar situation to the one I described when i opened this thread. Wind whipped up with receeding tide a chop whipped up due to tide and wind refracting back off the cliff. We were 400 yards from shore couldn't anchor in the chop, my old man was rowing away like blazes but we were still leaving the west coast of Scotland with the racing tide - heading for Belfast at an alarming rate!
When these situations arise you can always head to the other side of the peninsula and fish in Luce bay - that's if you can get ashore!
Luce bay is 3/4 land locked and seldom gets too outrageous unless the wind coming from the south. Excellent tope fishing there too........ not a great idea landing an angry tope in a SIB tho as I found out a few years back!
I unhook them at the side of the boat now!
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This is all very interesting and helpful. Thanks guys. I will be very interested at how the bracket works. At first I thought genius but with everyones heads put together i'm unsure. Proofs in the pudding. I hope it works. I now just wonder if it will remain at the right height to keep sucking in water, else it will obviously overheat. I think there must be a way of having an articulating bracket that can go around the transom wheels and still be out the stern. Going to have a play around today and see what I can come up with. I think seagull have a removable aux mount with a dovetailed housing. I wonder if this could work in some way. They are really expensive though! Hmmm
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Do one legged ducks swim in circle?
Lol!
You quack me up!
Just like a plane that looses one of its engines in flight I suppose - it flies around in circles too.
Quack quack!
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