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Old 14 September 2015, 05:49   #1
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Launching - Waders or wetsuit trousers??

There was chat a few weeks back about what you wear in the SIB and I commented we were mostly summer users so it's swim shorts and beach trainers for me. But I'm wondering about extending our season a little.

I usually get wet to almost crutch level when launching which is no problem in summer as the shorts dry very soon.

But I'm thinking of cold weather options. I have all my upper waterproofs and layers sorted so it's just the waist down really.

I don't want old fashioned waders that have room for two so have been thinking of things like these...

BISON 4MM NEOPRENE CHEST WADERS ALL SIZES WITH FREE MOBILE PHONE DRY BAG & STUDS: Amazon.co.uk: Sports & Outdoors

Peak UK Storm Pants Canoe Kayak Sea Whitewater paddle | eBay

BISON BREATHABLE STOCKING FOOT WAIST WADERS M,L XL,XXL FREE NEXT DAY UK DELIVERY | eBay


or something like these worn under my shorts...

Peak Neoskin Pants, Neoprene Trousers, Wetsuit Trouser, Kayak, Canoe, SUP, | eBay

Any thoughts?
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Old 14 September 2015, 05:55   #2
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I think the wetsuit pants are a good idea, as if the worst happened and you found yourself in the water, you could still swim, need footies too though

Wouldn't fancy my chances swimming with waders
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Old 14 September 2015, 05:58   #3
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I think it depends where you launch and in what conditions - waders are only any good if you keep them dry inside, on the beach in waves it's pretty easy to get caught out/swamped and a pair of waders filled up cannot be much fun...
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We choose to launch/recover at sheltered slips these days and only visit beaches mid outing with relatively calm conditions so I haven't had water higher than crutch level in years... so waist/chest wader trousers are a possibility. There is a certain attraction to them and being completely dry.

Not sure about the integral welly ones to be honest as that footwear looks a bit heavy for our type of sibbing... the waterproof sock design would probably be the way to go if I did get waders. In a way my favourites of the wader types are these or similar as they look the most like normal clothing...

BISON BREATHABLE STOCKING FOOT WAIST WADERS M,L XL,XXL FREE NEXT DAY UK DELIVERY | eBay
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I always use old fashioned chest waders for my launch and recovery Fenlander . never had any issues with waves coming over them..but im not a short ass at 6 foot tall. Mine are a good quality rubber and with the boot built in.. but they not breathable. I find that if I sit in them for long periods .. I can sweat in them a bit..and when it evaporates.. they can work the same principle as a fridge works with evaporation.. it can get a bit chilly in them..so I roll them down ..or take them off in the boat. However I have room in the boat for them..either rolled down or stashed on the floor. I also have a wooden floor to stand when I put them on which is very stable compared to an airfloor.

If I was worried conditions were that bad I could end up swimming..I wouldn’t wear waders on those days when on the water. As others say..they are not the best thing to go swimming in.

All the large fishing boat guys who launch off shores with Warriors or Predators .. up our way seem to use chest waders so its not just me. I don’t fancy sitting in wet suit leggings as I had a wet suit for dinghy sailing....so can compare to that.

I think rather than wetsuit leggings..I would go for a full Flotation suit ..improves buoyancy.. very warm..and very waterproof. Cuffs at legs and arms restrict water flow a bit too. I use a floatation suit top..but because of waders..didnt buy the bottom half.

Perhaps worth look into flotation suits too .. as well as dry suits.. wetsuits and waders..many options to look at

I cant comment on the stocking type waders ..but if you were going that route..try for breathable ones..they say they are warmer..but I cant confirm that statement.
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How do flotation suits work then? Do they have tight seals at all openings or do you need footwear that joins them.
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i use mud boots [neoprene] over my musto suit & survival suit in calm conditions.
dry suit in any thing rough.i have used neoprene & cheap rubber waders but you have to be aware if they flood you can hardly walk you have to invert to empty them getting totally wet through. wet suits are ok but get uncomfortable after a bit and they can chafe unless you wear ladies tights [don't knock it till you try it].
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How do flotation suits work then? Do they have tight seals at all openings or do you need footwear that joins them.
mine has wrist seals but not on the legs i find my mud boots keep me fairly dry if the odd wave goes over the boot with the legs tucked in.
i like the dry suit to honest looking from all aspects best if you have a convenience zip or front entry if your on your own,if you fall in no trouble to swim in and get back in the boat.
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Old 14 September 2015, 08:11   #9
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I have those bison neoprene waders. They are very warm compared to the nylon type and come up to my neck!
Order 2 sizes larger than your foot size though as the neoprene forms a sock inside the welly so takes up a lot of space.

I wouldn't want to go over with them but at least the neoprene offers a small amount of bouyancy over the nylon type. I generally take my waders off once I'm in the SIB, and put on salopettes and wellys.
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Think this is the best advert I have seen for flotation suits Fenlander..yup..its by Ragnail again..another crazy Scot

As Jeff says .. cant beat a drysuit for cold weather stuff though..and they are a lot cheaper nowadays too

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