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Old 25 June 2014, 18:50   #31
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Nope, not for the transom. Its a thrust board, it fits under the floor towards the bow. There will be a pocket under the airfloor to slide it through.
Thanks for that. I will have a look tomorrow.

Re the original posters question- I find my boat in its bag only movable for short distances on my own. Mainly because of its weight but also because it's so large to get hold of. I do better with the engine. I find I can cuddle that and walk it up the beach or slipway. However when I first bought the boat we used to heft it up (inflated) on to the roof rack of her little Suzuki Ignis, the engine went inside and off we went!

One thing I have learned is that some engines are quite fussy about which way you lay them if they can't travel upright. This may not apply to two strokes (not having a sump) but my four stroke can only be laid down on one side to avoid the engine oil entering the cylinder via the exhaust port.

I'm lucky enough to be able to leave mine pumped up in the garage. I a agree that the hassle of unpacking/inflating/carrying probably would get to you over time.
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Old 25 June 2014, 19:28   #32
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If you can move around a rolled up futon (or mattress) by yourself you have good idea what its like lugging a rolled up SIB around. Do-able but awkward and you might scuff up the walls in the hallways on the way up and down. Smaller would be better along with the air floor.

As far as the engine goes you could get one with a built in flushing attachment and avoid need to run it on muffs or in a bucket. Just hook up a hose and let it run for 10-15 mins. 9.9/10hp would be a max weightwise and an 8hp might be better. Maybe someone here could take you out and show you their SIB and how they manage the bits?

You would need to disconnect the fuel line and run the engine until it dies to make sure the petrol inside is completely gone. Otherwise not a big deal.

The actual fuel can would need to be stored outside in a non-living space, perhaps on a patio.
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Old 25 June 2014, 21:23   #33
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What happened to men today? A small inflatable is not that heavy, nor is an engine under 10HP. The boat itself weighs under 100 lbs, and the motor about the same.

Try scuba diving...cold water gear is heavy!

As I said in my previous post, I wouldn't want to store anything that smelled of fuel in my living space.
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What happened to men today? A small inflatable is not that heavy, nor is an engine under 10HP. The boat itself weighs under 100 lbs, and the motor about the same.

Try scuba diving...cold water gear is heavy!

As I said in my previous post, I wouldn't want to store anything that smelled of fuel in my living space.
You overestimate the size of the rabbit hutches people in the UK live it
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Old 26 June 2014, 01:19   #35
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I know of someone who has a large trailer he parks in his allocated parking space which he keeps his trike in. I had a 3m air deck which i kept in the spare room in my caravan. Just became a pain
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Old 26 June 2014, 10:31   #36
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Thanks for that. I will have a look tomorrow.

Re the original posters question- I find my boat in its bag only movable for short distances on my own. Mainly because of its weight but also because it's so large to get hold of. I do better with the engine. I find I can cuddle that and walk it up the beach or slipway. However when I first bought the boat we used to heft it up (inflated) on to the roof rack of her little Suzuki Ignis, the engine went inside and off we went!

One thing I have learned is that some engines are quite fussy about which way you lay them if they can't travel upright. This may not apply to two strokes (not having a sump) but my four stroke can only be laid down on one side to avoid the engine oil entering the cylinder via the exhaust port.

I'm lucky enough to be able to leave mine pumped up in the garage. I a agree that the hassle of unpacking/inflating/carrying probably would get to you over time.
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What is it with the time out on this forum? Just written a nicely considered reply to your post which, in fact, gave me a couple of ideas. And then pfft, gone.

Anyway, to summarise - these boat bags - built down to a price rather than up to a solution. So what I was thinking was something along the lines of making up a few straps with cam lock buckles or airline seat type buckles, that can easily be adjusted as well as opened/closed.

I've got plenty of 50mm webbing, buckles, even carabiners if required - the point I'm trying to make is, having a load of straps/handles should make it easier to grapple with and get up a few flights of stairs etc.

Thanks for raising the possibility of frustration re: inflation/deflation - maybe the marina I'd park near would consider taking the boat overnight the odd weekend. I can only ask.
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Old 26 June 2014, 11:19   #37
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What happened to men today?
Nothing (plenty wrong with the youth though...)!

I have no compaints with the weights being quoted, just want to be clear about engines in the boot of a small car - doesn't look like it's too much of an issue, other than fuel smell and the need to store that away from home, as you mentioned.
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Old 26 June 2014, 11:26   #38
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...As far as the engine goes you could get one with a built in flushing attachment and avoid need to run it on muffs or in a bucket. Just hook up a hose and let it run for 10-15 mins. 9.9/10hp would be a max weightwise and an 8hp might be better. Maybe someone here could take you out and show you their SIB and how they manage the bits?

You would need to disconnect the fuel line and run the engine until it dies to make sure the petrol inside is completely gone. Otherwise not a big deal...
I've just realised, I haven't included a fuel tank in my costs.

Is at least 10 min flushing out really needed?

Thanks for the advice re: smaller engine but I feel pretty sure that I want to take advantage of the nearby coast with a Cat C boat + 10hp 2 stroke.
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Old 26 June 2014, 11:39   #39
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I've just realised, I haven't included a fuel tank in my costs.

Is at least 10 min flushing out really needed?

Thanks for the advice re: smaller engine but I feel pretty sure that I want to take advantage of the nearby coast with a Cat C boat + 10hp 2 stroke.
Fuel tanks are cheap (relatively speaking)
Don't forget the safety bits like flares, anchor, line, life jackets, and a handheld VHF radio, all that adds up.

As far as the flushing goes, actually running it with muffs on or in a bucket is better since the thermostat opens up and the fresh water really gets circulated better. The built in flushing attachments aren't as good at getting the salt out. So they need to run a fair bit to get a good rinse. I typically use my flushing attachment for 10-15 mins and then hose down the entire boat before putting it in the garage, on a trailer.

Lots of engines don't get flushed at all, so not its not mandatory. But it will last longer and run better/more reliably if well flushed after use in salt water.
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What is it with the time out on this forum? Just written a nicely considered reply to your post which, in fact, gave me a couple of ideas. And then pfft, gone.
I know the feeling.. I belong to a couple of other forums and if my reply is going to be more than a couple of lines I put it on the clipboard (highlight-then ctrl key plus C) then if it vanishes I can just paste it back in (ctrl plus V). If I'm already using the clipboard for something else I even copy the text into an email just in case. (I apologise if I'm teaching my grandmother to suck eggs here!)

Good idea about the straps. The bag on mine isn't really even a bag, more like a stretchy sheet with straps. I sort of stagger around hugging the thing hoping nobody gets in my way..
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