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Old 06 May 2013, 14:50   #11
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The same goes for inflatable lifejackets - of course use these with children - just show them exactly how they work and what the toggle is for - I never had any problems.
Have you tested to see how good a swimmer they need to be to cope with the shock immersion / panic and find and pull the toggle if the auto mechanism doesn't work?
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Old 06 May 2013, 14:58   #12
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Education is probably the best way.we keep hearing remarkable stories about how a young child has saved a parents life .that could be you !!!!

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Have you tested to see how good a swimmer they need to be to cope with the shock immersion / panic and find and pull the toggle if the auto mechanism doesn't work?
Very good Poly - at what age does the effect of cold shock dissappear or does it increase with age?

Also maybe thats why all my LJ's are regularly serviced
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Very good Poly - at what age does the effect of cold shock dissappear or does it increase with age?
I've no idea if either the psychological or physiological aspects of sudden cold water immersion change with age. In my view they change a bit with experience. It changes if you have confidence in what the boat/skipper will do. It changes if you've had an auto-lifejacket 'blowup' on you.

My 9 yr old is an "OK" swimmer, but if he's not that good, although he has had some dinghy and canoe capsizes. I wouldn't put him in an auto jacket yet.

My father doesn't swim at all. I also wouldn't put him in an autojacket.
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With YOUNG children it's keep it simple & safe.

I would never have put my 2 in anything but failproof foam LJs until they are the age & height weight they are now at 9/10 (1st season of autos!!)
Yes you should teach them how do do things on the boat, hlelm, steer a compass course, lookout, ie up etc etc....but they need to be physically capable of suceeeding.
At 3 It's about giving confidence & ensuring they on't get hurt / exposed too much to elements / scared.
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Imho

A 3 year old in the sea, falling off a moving boat is to be avoided totally, I mean it's life and death even in modest sea state, no auto jackets, and always use crutch strap!

Simple falls/slips in the boat onto a hard edge. Reduce sharp objects/ edges if possible, sit them low, within arms reach to brace them when you miss time a wave.

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Use kill cord, goes without saying....
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Have you tested to see how good a swimmer they need to be to cope with the shock immersion / panic and find and pull the toggle if the auto mechanism doesn't work?
Small kids should not be in an inflatable PFD. Foam only, with a rear mounted "keep-the-head-up" flap.

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Both mine ( now 4 and 8) are in foam jackets and will be for a while yet. I've also got a body harness that we use on the little one. Ensures we have a really good point on which to hold and if we need to can clip him on when required - but not when underway!!
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I'm coming over from mainly being a yachtie as I have 3 fairly small children (3,4,7) who found sailing a bit boring after the first 3 - 4 hours and wanted to be able to get off and do things and see things. A rib looks like the smart choice so I've been gearing up towards that now.

One thing we did on the yachts was colour code some of the items.

Green - Good to hold, feel free.
Yellow - Ask first.
Red - under no circumstances can you touch this, ever.

Green on hand holds etc,
Yellow on things like winch handles
Red on winch drums, flare tin

The colour was a good reminder for them too, and always got them asking questions and reminding.

last time out my 7 year old spotted me making an unorthadox adjustment to the main sheet then teling me off as I was not holding the sheet correctly and my fingers were in danger. Spot on.

Andy, "I've also got a body harness that we use on the little one." what sort of harness set up do you use with the little one?
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