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Old 06 March 2011, 12:41   #1
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Introducing The Smaller Nashers 380 Aerotec

Myself and the Smaller Nashers took a trip over to the Island today to pick up the Bombard 380 Aerotec weve found to replace their 2.8M Zodiac.

Thanks again to 118118 for the heads up about this boat.

The seller had said on the phone it was a bit dirty but in good condition underneath the grime, which was partly true, but we didnt pay much for it in the end.

Firstly Im assuming its PVC, can anyone confirm this?

Weve only given it a quick scrub over with Traffic film Remover so far, the tubes and underneath have come up OK but the deck has some real ground in grime that will need a better scrub out of the boat.

It was previously used as a rescue boat for a sailing club, and has a couple of badly applied patches which Ill take off and redo, but there are other leaks that will need sorting.

The tops of the tubes where you sit to drive have some small pin pricks in them, which is strange as there are no marks from harnesses etc, it really looks like somebody has pushed a pin through the tubes in half a dozen places.
These will be easy to sort as Ill put a large wear patch down either side which will cover them all up and provide a less slippery place to sit as well.

Anyone have two pieces of Black PVC wear patch @30 x 8?

The boat was full of sand, including all three valves, which needed a good clean out and a spray of silicone before they would shut tight.

The harder part to sort is going to be the deck.
The Port side has a couple of very small splits right on the join between the side and top surface right down in joint along the keel area. One up in the bow thats been very badly patched and leaks very slightly, and another back by the transom that hasnt been touched and also leaks very slightly. It did stay up for over an hour before going soft enough to have to pump it back up, so its not that bad.

So, Ill also be needing some Grey PVC to make some patches for the deck.

Both sides of the deck did initially go down very quickly, but I discovered both O rings on the valves were shot, and once Id replaced them with some I found in my garage they were fine.

One question I've just thought of.
As Ill be looking out for a 10 15HP two stroke for it, what shaft length should I go for?
Obviously the V shaped transom makes it a little different to other SIBs weve had.

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Old 06 March 2011, 12:45   #2
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Sorry, one more question for existing owners.

The seat is missing, does this add any rigidity or can we use it without one with no worries?

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Old 06 March 2011, 13:23   #3
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Looks like a good project!

It takes a short shaft motor and you may find that you need to jack it up by a couple of inches too if you get a lot of spray. I wouldn't get anything less than 15hp; it will work with a 10 but you're going to be running it flat out all the time.

You're OK without the seat, but it should be an easy job to make another one. Let me know if you want a template.
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Old 06 March 2011, 13:26   #4
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Nice catch!

Yes, its PVC. Its Bombard/Zodiac "strongan" fabric for the tubes. The deck is hard to clean due to the none slip surface, i used plenty of warm water and soap in the shower space in the bathroom

Have not patched mine but did do some glue work and would not recommend work with the Polymarine 2k glue on this fabric. Maybe it was me(lack of skills) or then this specific PVC just not work well with it. Would try zodiac glue( re branded Bostic?).

I did use mine sometimes without the seat, did not notice much difference.

You will need to have high pressure in the deck so those should be patched carefully. Good luck!
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Hi Nasher

This is a PVC tube, excellent boat, I had a 15 S/S Yammie on the back of mine and like John said jack it up on the transom, I had a block of wood under mine which was about 1.5" and it was still pretty good on the turns.
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Thanks guys, the boys and myself are really looking forward to getting started on it properly, hopefully I can teach them a thing or two.

I'll start looking for a 15HP SS motor.
It needs to be as light as possible because the whole point of this boat like their current one is to be able to roll it up in the RIB and pump it up when we get to the beach.
At the moment I can very easily sit on the RIB tubes and put their 4HP merc over the side onto the SIB, but it's not going to be that easy with anything bigger.

Good tip about jacking the engine up, thanks.

So it's defo PVC then, or 'strongan', thanks.

Patching the deck is going to be hard because of the areas involved, but I'm sure with patience we can do it, and just to be sure I'll go down the Bostic route rather than Polymarine. I've always 'tacked' the surface of PVC with Acetone before gluing and not had a patch come off.

Might take you up on the template for a seat John, but it will be a low priority at the moment.

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I'll start looking for a 15HP SS motor.
It needs to be as light as possible because the whole point of this boat like their current one is to be able to roll it up in the RIB and pump it up when we get to the beach.
At the moment I can very easily sit on the RIB tubes and put their 4HP merc over the side onto the SIB, but it's not going to be that easy with anything bigger.
In that case it might be worth taking the performance hit if you can find a Tohatsu 9.8!
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In that case it might be worth taking the performance hit if you can find a Tohatsu 9.8!
There are quite a few popping up on Fleabay at the mo. Here's one
It is 2005 or older. 2005 are making 900ish, IIRC.
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I would try this one out, price is not bad, its glue specific for bombard/ zodiac fabric.

http://www.ronhalemarine.co.uk/super..._Part_Adhesive

I have about 1 m2 red "strongan", seams like heavy duty material to me, but sure You will find this stuff for patching closer also.
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I would try this one out, price is not bad, its glue specific for bombard/ zodiac fabric.

http://www.ronhalemarine.co.uk/super..._Part_Adhesive

I have about 1 m2 red "strongan", seams like heavy duty material to me, but sure You will find this stuff for patching closer also.
Thanks C-NUMB
Ron Hale are my local Bombard/Zodiac dealer so I was thinking of dropping in to see them on Friday afternoon. Unfortunately work will keep me away from the boat until then.

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The 9.8 Tohatsu is one of the engines on my list, but what sort of performance could I expect with one?

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