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Old 09 January 2014, 14:26   #1
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Insurance and licencing advice

So I finally have my Zodiac 340 Sib and a really clean 15hp outboard, I'm now looking into the necessaries to get on rivers, canals & water ways beaches etc legally ready to enjoy this new activity in the spring.
From reading on here & google I believed I need insurance and a boat licence? Then I went on the licencing website and followed this link

( http://canalrivertrust.org.uk/media/library/653.pdf )

If I read this correctly, contrary to what I thought, I actually don't need a licence?

Any advice on insurance before I stumble in and go with the first sensible quote?
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Old 09 January 2014, 21:53   #2
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Think for canals the max engine size for an outboard is 4 hp if its a day launcher & 10 hp for Rivers though they may have changed it when it went from British waterways to the C & R trust , Even though you may be exempt from the Boat safety certificate you might need to obtain a permit or licence for the day . We put our boat on the local canal last bank holiday monday just using the oars , made a peaceful change having no noise from the engine & having the kids do some rowing ,, dont think we would have made it to Liverpool in the day though ! : )
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Old 10 January 2014, 13:23   #3
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It is lovely on the canal with only oars, this was my first intention before buying our dinghy but I have 4 children, so storing, transporting and buying a couple of Canadian canoes or similar isn't practical, maybe in a few years when their a little older this would be possible.

Did you get far in the dinghy? I managed a 5 mile round trip in an old Avon Redcrest last summer, just me and my boy rowing raft style, hard work though but it was beautiful, we were followed by Swans for the whole trip, I'm hoping all six of us in the Zodiac will be able to row it but it's going to be hard work.

Must admit I wonder if the 15hp would clog up plodding along at canal speeds.
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Hi,yes to go on the canals and rivers,namely the Avon, Severn and the Sharpness Canal for me as they are local in the inflatable I have to buy a day licence online, the boat does not qualify to have a safety certificate as its an open boat and there is no electrical system onboard and there is no built in fuel tank or cooking facilities installed but you have to have third party insurance to obtain licence, this also applies to the Thames (non tidal). I have a 15 hp outboard and have not been refused licence regarding size of motor
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I'm getting quotes of 120, is this about right, I'm only likely to use it between 6-10 times a year as we are involved in other sport commitments.
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Sounds a tad high to me , I use here for mine - Boat insurance, online quote for your boat, yacht or dinghy in the UK

As a guide I used to pay 68 for a 3.38 sib with a 25 on the back and 118 for a 4.7m rib with a 50 hp.
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I think you'll find it's irrelevant how often you use your craft T4bus. But like Teerat, I pay similar for my 4.8/50hp + trailer and transport
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There is no national requirement for either training, license or insurance for a non commercial boat in the UK. However individual bodies of water may require any or all of the above to use them.

I would suggest that you get a minimum of 3rd party insurance and some form of training. Training courses can be great fun and you learn loads.
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There is no national requirement for either training, license or insurance for a non commercial boat in the UK. However individual bodies of water may require any or all of the above to use them.

I would suggest that you get a minimum of 3rd party insurance and some form of training. Training courses can be great fun and you learn loads.
I would not consider using the boat without 3rd party insurance, to be fair I would prefer a comprehensive policy but having looked at a few comparison sites it seems, surprisingly, that this will cost more than insuring my 2.5litre VW? For an occasional use leisure craft it would not be viable so third party it will be. I have now found a couple for under 70 which will basically offer little more than a policy number in order to get a local licence.

As for training, this is a given, there are courses local to me in Bristol so I'll book myself and my eldest son in before we venture out. At this stage I'm purely gathering everything together ready for the spring/summer, knowledge, kit etc so we don't rush around trying to prepare last minute.
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I think you'll find it's irrelevant how often you use your craft T4bus. But like Teerat, I pay similar for my 4.8/50hp + trailer and transport
I would not expect there to be a limited use policy, just balancing the cost against benefit. I'll ring some insurers in the week as online the quotes don't compare with those mentioned.
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