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Old 21 November 2014, 06:34   #1
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How big for one person to handle?

Hi All,

I will mostly fish on my own, but occasionally will take my two sons out (lanky teenagers) out with me.
So my question is what size boat would suit? I currently have a sailing boat which i am getting rid of because of excessive boatyard fees, and i don't have a drive. Both of these rule out a trailer - this will need to go in the boot of my largish estate (Zafira).
I quite like the look/price of the T35-T40 Honwaves and they are in my price range if i stuck with the 5hp engine i already have (no strong tides around here and i wouldn't be fishing far from shore). However, i don't know what i could reasonably handle - for example, is the T40 manageable with the boards taken out?

Any advice very welcome.

James
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Old 21 November 2014, 06:48   #2
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I personally have a suzumar 360DS 3,6m) even with the engine (Suzuki 15hp 4stroke) mounted easy to handle on my own.
I bought a sort of beach trailer i can completely disassemble and put in the back of my Peugeot 5008 (same type of car) no problem.

Here's the post i made on the trailer.

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Old 21 November 2014, 07:00   #3
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I have a Honwave 3.5 AE with a 20 hp Tohatsu 4 stroke (50kg +) and with the launch wheels on no problem on my own but I wouldn't want to drag it a long way on soft sand.Click image for larger version

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Old 21 November 2014, 07:11   #4
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I have a Honwave 3.5 AE with a 20 hp Tohatsu 4 stroke (50kg +) and with the launch wheels on no problem on my own but I wouldn't want to drag it a long way on soft sand.Attachment 100916
Magic, that's exactly what i was thinking about. Is it a struggle loading and unloading into your car?
I like the self launching device in the background. Even comes with a saddle!
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Old 21 November 2014, 07:12   #5
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I personally have a suzumar 360DS 3,6m) even with the engine (Suzuki 15hp 4stroke) mounted easy to handle on my own.
I bought a sort of beach trailer i can completely disassemble and put in the back of my Peugeot 5008 (same type of car) no problem.

Here's the post i made on the trailer.

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Thanks - that's something i hadn't thought of but makes a lot of sense.
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Old 21 November 2014, 07:53   #6
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You could even fit it with a nose wheel so no lifting needed to launch.
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Old 21 November 2014, 08:22   #7
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Other alternative (although I don't know your stature / health etc) is I carry a 3.2 sib (wooden floor board type) fully inflated hull only on my back like a turtle shell -

Inflate it, then walk it vertical (so it's standing on it's cone tips).
Walk oround to the inside, (keeping hold of it!)
then put your back against the floorboards, and crouch down to grab the top of the transom with your hands.
Then stand, let it tip forward (slightly) to balance, & waklk to the water's edge.

It's a bit (!) more fun in the wind, but with a bit of practice all bar a sudden unexpected huge gust is surprisingly managable.




Then go back for the engine, fuel, etc.
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Old 21 November 2014, 08:50   #8
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How big for one person to handle?

Sorry that its long winded but i have included everything i looked at.

I am 70 years of age and have been through the selection process as you are doing. I have a motorhome with a small garage at the back. I needed to be able to handle it on my own without any assistance as I go up to Scotland every few weeks or so.
Firstly i selected the lightest inflatable i could find which would be suitable for inshore sea (category C) use, lochs and lakes. It was important that i could transport each item individually to waters edge
Firstly, I decided on an excel SL260 (2.6 meters) at 21 KG, easy to lift, inflate and deflate.(now the lightest ones are 3D fromSeamark Nunn)
Secondly i decided on a Vector 4 stroke 5hp which weighs in at about 22KG
Thirdly the 12L external tank and hose (quite heavy when full but needed for distance)
Fourthly, bits and bobs, anchor, chain, fishing box, seat bag for keeping clothing, lifejacket etc which mount up.
Initially i put the lightweight transom wheels that fix to the transom plates but they were ripped off when going over pebbles and rocks so i changed it for a manual launching trolley, mild steel weight 23KG

As you can see the weight became a major consideration, here is my list...
Weights etc.
Boat 19kg / Bag + contents 8kg Total 27kg = 49 lb / Petrol set up- Engine 22kg + Tank full 10kg = 32kg = 59 lb.
Trolley 1 steel 22kg = 41lb Total weight 149lb, set up time including inflating 1 hr 30min

Because of my age, mobility and the messing about with petrol required every trip i decided to change for a lighter more convenient set up.

Torqeedo 1003S (equivalent to 3hp petrol. Range 16 miles, not to be confused with "thrust type) Electric drive 10kg + battery 4.5kg + tiller .5kg = 10kg = 18.5 lb / Trolley aluminium = 10 kg = 19lb / Boat, Bag + contents = 27Kg = 49lb
Total weight 86.5lb / Set up time 30-35 minutes

I reduced set up time from 1 hour 30 minutes to 30 minutes
I reduced weight from 149 lbs 86lbs

The Torqeedo is expensive but what a massive difference it makes, clean, breaks down to 3 parts with internal battery, charges from mains.
The aluminium trolley breaks into 2 lightweight parts and wheels
The inflatable fits into a small family car if required. If you decide to go for a 3.1meter it will increase weight to 70lb + and will require a bigger car.

Good luck, apologies for it being lengthy

My initial set up
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I have a 2009 Zodiac 340 Acti-V with 15hp Mariner & lots of add on accesories, very easy to store & will easily get up on the plane with two adults & two children. Drop down Trem transom wheels included so moving and launching single handed is easy.

I have used it a couple of times for fishing & simply drape a tarpaulin on the floor & over the top of the side tube just to ensure nothing gets marked or stained.

Were in the process of buying a selection of Kayaks as our main requirement for being on the water is close to shore & rivers so the Kayaks will hopefully offer more participation from all the family.

I was going to wait untill summer to advertise mine but you are welcome to take a look if interested.
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Old 21 November 2014, 12:22   #10
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