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Old 14 June 2015, 05:15   #11
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I have a airfloor honwave the v floor is not as pronounced as a bombard and have covered it with a rubber mat Boat Deck Matting - Rhombus Pattern - 3.5mm Thick - 1m Wide - BLACK | eBay
that will hopefully protect it from sharps and fish blood .I don't stand up in mine generally as im a bit clumsy and out at sea an inflatable is generally bobbing about a bit . but find the size at 3.2 meters from the seat I can reach most things in the boat without walking to them
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Old 14 June 2015, 07:49   #12
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I have a Seapro 380hd and although Seapro gets a bit of a bad press on Rib net, the boat (so far) has been spot on. I've put a 30hp 2-stroke on the back so it goes really well (pulls toys etc) Previous comments about the boats weight are correct - it's far too heavy to launch without at trailer etc. In the end I decided to buy a trailer which it sits on all season. So much easier to launch in deep sand etc. Also 50kg of engine is a heavy old lump to cart about - I'm sure others would say its poss to carry around but personally it's far too heavy unless your Jeff Capes. From what I've heard if you are looking for a boat to transport in your motor home an air floor is def way forward. Quick to set up with a decent electric pump and handles well in water. Unless you've got a van or very, very large car, the heavy Sibs best suit trailers - you then have to question whether it's better to buy a small Rib instead!!
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Old 14 June 2015, 08:51   #13
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so to just clarify in my mind or to keep my missus happy what is the air floor like in the honwave 38 is it solid enough to move around in ok she seems to think it will be like those kiddies toys where you stand up and they fold up ?

if i go for the t35 with honda launch wheels will my missus and i be able to pull it up the slip way after use

most of our hols are in lake garda so campsite has a concrete slipway ( not to steep )

thanks for all your help
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Old 14 June 2015, 09:28   #14
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Unless a slipway was very steep I would pull our T35AE (with 15hp 2-stroke and all the kit we carried) on my own just with help from the kids if I had to bump up a kerb or similar. I would regularly pull it along the road to a slipway for several hundred metres from where we set it up by the car. I could do this on my own but to get a bit of a breather up slopes I made up a pole that clipped onto the front handle so two people could pull it along at once.... but this was a luxury rather than essential item.

Of course my current air floor Zodiac feels much easier in any such situation and I can walk that about single handed over almost any distance but if you are of at least average strength the T35 is OK.

The main reason I sold it was for various family reasons (them going off boating really) it came down to me to do a single handed assemble/takedown each time and that was a bit of a faff as we always did it daily.

It's a personal choice but if my greatest use was being at the same place for 1-2 weeks with a concrete slipway and at least one person who would help a little I'd rather the alloy floor T35 over the air floor T38.
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Old 14 June 2015, 10:51   #15
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thanks everbody for your input , but can anyone also tell me the maximum length and width of the latest mariner 20 short shaft ? i have the weight just need the dimensions thanks
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Just a thought, saw the f-rib at the boat show and they look a good choice if you want a solid floor like a rib but still able to fold it up, but I have not tried one so you will have to investigate them yourself, look good but pricey
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Old 14 June 2015, 12:08   #17
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Some good advice all round on this topic. Presuming you have read the sticky (Which SIB?) as it's a general round up on there aimed at prospective owners like yourself.

If I was you and really thinking of committing to a brand new outfit I'd really spend some time looking at fully inflated boats to compare and *definitely* having a go at assembling/disassembling each type - and remember all lovely in a dry showroom, different story when all dripping wet, sandy, tired etc... Most SIB owners rarely get the right outfit the first time, hence why so many of us say go secondhand first, try it, see what works and doesn't and move on from there. This is why there is an endless stream of barely used outfits on eBay all year - carpeted showroom seduction is a powerful thing - bouncing along, uncomfortable, wet, tired can be the reality for many and the old saying the happiest two days of a boater's life: "...the day they buy the boat and the day they sell the boat..." can be just as true for SIBbers as the big boys....

And be sure to try manhandling a few engines - the weight is one thing the unwieldiness of anything bigger than a 2 stroke 15 is something else.

Pulling a rig on a concrete slipway on transom wheels (one man job) is a gazillion miles from trying the same on a beach/shingle/mud etc (3 man job).

Re' airfloor vs hardfloor - again, see the sticky but it's *essential* the air pressure in a HP floor is at the max or a tadge over with a proper gauge - 1/2 psi too little makes a huge difference.

On the 3.8m Honwaves there have been a few reports on here over the years that even correctly inflated they are inferior to the 3.4 and a bit prone to floppiness.

As mentioned above by beerbelly a rubber floor covering improves airfloors a lot, some pics of mine here:

Bombard Aerotec ready for the maiden voyage (b@stard son of a Y Class)
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Old 14 June 2015, 12:18   #18
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ID:	106020AndyJackson, I see you're at Trimdon. I'm assuming that's near Durham (@50 minutes from me at Masham). If you want to look at and assemble a Honwave 3.5 AE and Tohatsu 20 before you buy I have one.
I've nowhere to put it on the water but it'll give you an idea of what's involved, it also has transom wheels.
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Old 14 June 2015, 12:54   #19
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Just seen this in the classifieds, doesn't get more perfect for your situation IMHO.

If you can get it below 2k an almost perfect all round, transportable, lightweight set up.

Engine value is 1250.

Honda Honwave 3.2 + Tohatsu 9.8
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Old 14 June 2015, 13:07   #20
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Hi Paddlers ,

thanks very much for your offer , and i would love to have a chat with you about your boat as we have decided thats the one for us we think,

if you could ring me on 07860943472 i would gladly ring you back to save costs,

just to ask a few questions ,

cheers

Andy

thanks for the tip on the 3.2 Max but I might be more interested in the 3.5 for sale by Glow if its still available,

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