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Old 12 June 2016, 07:43   #11
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If it was mine, I would VERY CAREFULLY prepare the area with MEK. MEK is the death knell for PVC glued joints so don't make contact with them. I'd then syringe inject a tiny bit of urethane sealant (aquaseal or similar) into the hole/s and over them slightly too (forming a dumbbell shaped spot of sealant inside and outside the hole). Once that was set I'd inflate to a very low pressure and carry out the Nasher Repair with a very fine PVC fabric, overlapping the next time with more. Correct prep/glue/conditions/technique are all important in SIB repair. The UK resellers have good advice on their websites.
Good call - hadn't thought about Aquaseal I bet that would hold the pressure as you say. So basically some un renforced PVC (without the fabric layer)would be OK as the first layer(s) with the 'proper' stuff over the top for strength.

How about removing the previous patches - been in place for maybe 18 months. Warm up with an air gun and some careful application of MEK?
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Old 12 June 2016, 08:41   #12
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Thanks folks - I'll try the aquaseal and patch combo and report back.

I notice a few Aerotec owners here - I've been tempted a few times, but is it worth getting an older one or is there a 'sell by date'? Theres one on ebay but it looks well used. I saw one a month or so ago but the transom had begun to part from the tubes - maybe an outboard too large for the rating?

The lightness would be an improvement on the Honwave, and the weird 'cranked' wheels are a fiddle to drop and lift.
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Old 12 June 2016, 09:41   #13
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>>>notice a few Aerotec owners here... worth getting an older one or is there a 'sell by date'? Theres one on ebay but it looks well used. I saw one a month or so ago but the transom had begun to part from the tubes - maybe an outboard too large for the rating?

The one on Ebay at the moment for 495 has obvious signs of transom/tube glue failure and possibly past re-glue attempts to fix previously.

There was one a while back with serious problems in this area and I think the guy claimed he'd overpowered it on holiday... hmmm they're rated to 25hp so I think it's unlikely it was anything other than glue failure.

It's a very personal choice as to the age where you might start to worry about glue issues.... and how you price accordingly. I usually say anything over 10/12yrs look very carefully at the floor/tube and transom/tube seams. Not saying they all fail at that age but just sensible to be wary when buying.

I've owned one at 18yrs old that had been repaired in the past and needed me to do more. I was so impressed with that I bought a new one to give me a very long buffer before any glue failure might be expected.

Two dealers I spoke to gave them an 18yr life which does seem to fit with the work needed on the 18yr old one I owned.

Of course that 18yr life would be assuming once the glue failed in a few areas you gave up on it. If you are happy to do DIY repairs they can safely be kept going a good bit longer.

Have a look at this thread on my old one... all gets a bit interesting from post #31 onwards...

Aerotec patching/glue advice.

And this might be of interest...

Old used Aerotec impressions.
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Old 12 June 2016, 09:56   #14
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Can you post a much larger close-up pic - impossible to see any detail on the thumbnail.
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Old 12 June 2016, 10:58   #15
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I have successfully repaired the rear corners of my aerotec floor. I used the technique you describe, i.e. cutting segments to get around the curves. Worked fine for me. I might add an extra layer this winter, trying not to overlap the cuts. Apparently its very important to carry out the repairs in a constant temperature/humidity environment. Which happened to be the dining room table!

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Old 12 June 2016, 11:30   #16
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Thanks folks - I'll try the aquaseal and patch combo and report back.

I notice a few Aerotec owners here - I've been tempted a few times, but is it worth getting an older one or is there a 'sell by date'? Theres one on ebay but it looks well used. I saw one a month or so ago but the transom had begun to part from the tubes - maybe an outboard too large for the rating?

The lightness would be an improvement on the Honwave, and the weird 'cranked' wheels are a fiddle to drop and lift.

Nice outfit with ideal engine ending (that was flagged up in the SIB's spotted on eBay topic) in a couple of hours should give current ideal of value. Engine is worth 1100+, trailer say 300, wheels 150 - you can see what a bargain it could end up...

Bombard Aerotec 380 inflatable with 15 hp Mariner engine, Indespensible trailer | eBay

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Boat & engine both purchased 2006 from Glaslyn Marine Porth Madoc - Bombard, Avon & Zodiac dealer -still operating, invoice dated 02.03 2006, delivered 14.04.2006. Trailer ordered from Indespension and collected from their Poole depot 13.04.06 - invoice same date. Accessories mainly from Saltern Marine in Poole.

-Engine SN OP426659, serviced 24/11/07, 24/10/11, 7 25/09/13, invoices available. Very light usage say max 5 times each year at 5 hours max , say 200 -250 hours running time in total, only 6 hours last year. Engine flushed thro with fresh water after each use and whole outfit hosed down again with fresh water. Engine started including with cooling water during off season each year. Some small superficial marks to engine hood but no dents or adverse conditions.No known issues and engine appears to be in very good order . Sorry no photos of engine, ID etc-boat in dorset I am in Nottingham until 15 june.
- Boat - hull in good clean order and no leaks / repairs, aerotec deck had a slight leak in 2007/ 8 and taken to professional who tested-found a slight damage-and repaired - cause likely to be me with anchor on first use-practice changed and no problems since. Transom etc all in good condition

- Trailer &with winch all in good order - both hub bearings replaced 19.08.13 - effect of salt water - no salt water launchings since.
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