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Old 08 September 2015, 11:34   #21
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>>>see if I can find a Zodiac dealer nearby and ask them about the Aerotec.

It'll be interesting to see what they say. Due to Zodiac going bust and waiting for a buyer I don't think there's been an Aerotec made so far during 2015. The ones sold new by dealers this year were made in 2014 and I don't think any dealer has another one left in the UK.

They are due to re-start production at Zodiac any day now, I assume the Aerotec will still be made. I will get to know when they do get going as they have a little Aerotec job to do for me and they promise it will be one of their first tasks when production resumes.

Edit 6 mins later: By coincidence a mail has just pinged in to say they did restart production last week and the "little job" they've done for me on the Aerotec production line is on it's way from France at this very moment.
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Old 08 September 2015, 11:49   #22
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Glad you're getting those issues sorted. Maybe they will start buying some black or grey PVC to make the floors from instead of pesky white...
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Old 08 September 2015, 12:17   #23
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I've been relaxed (just) due to the unique situation of the factory being shut down but I'm near to throwing up the "well you would never have believed my luck" type post when the new "part" is received and tried.

I wonder if there is a reason all air floors are white across all makes... well they are as far as I've seen.

Don't know if you'd noticed but post 2010 (or so) Zodiac started making the upper surface of the air floors from a dimpled but easy to clean more shiny finish... in contrast to the earlier sandpaper like "I will resist all attempts at cleaning" finish. They're even more wipe clean than the tubes now.
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Old 08 September 2015, 12:27   #24
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Mine's covered with that black rubber when in use - and you know what happened the first time I fitted it and the petrol got underneath...

...now a nice p**** yellow in many areas.
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Old 08 September 2015, 17:43   #25
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I assume you have tried to get it off with acetone. I just love that stuff. Never had any until I started to do those old patch repairs this summer and now I've already used 3/4 gallon.
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Old 08 September 2015, 21:39   #26
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What's your opinion on this?

That with some beachmasters and my Yamaha F9.9.
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Old 09 September 2015, 02:57   #27
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I have no experience of the Seapro Amukinado ..however I believe they are a reasonable brand and when my Quicksilver 4.3 HD packs in.. I think the Seapro 4.3 HD would be my choice to replace it. ..I get the impression they are the same boat ..different brand name ? Probably all made in same Factory anyhoo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=U...&v=bI8hWDlFvKo

Im not sure how to attach a video..but there is a nice happy video at the link..advertising the SIB you mentioned and with a 9.8 parson engine.

Think I would consider the 3.8m version rather than the 3.4m. From my experience..longer boats handle better than shorter length boats
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I wouldn't go near that specific model you have linked to Amukinado. Note in the listing they say... "Speeds of up to 10 mph are suggested as the airdeck on such a large boat can cause drag and warp at higher speeds".

There must be a real problem with design of that air floor for them to make that statement that I've never read on any other makers description... in fact makers are usually praising their air floors for how stiff they are.

Personally I would not order a new flat air floor of any make without having been out in one on the sea. Different people have different opinions of the same model as some find them unexpectedly firm and like them... others don't like the slight jelly feel.

My air floor experience is mainly of two Zodiac 340 models and a Zodiac 360. They are all what I'm calling a flat air floor... with inflated keel underneath. They were all fantastically light to carry and easy to assemble... very roomy for their size too and super stable. At rest as I've said there is a slight jelly type feel when standing for example and under way at speed you do get some odd effects of a "ripple" going through the floor plus in some outfit combinations they can be more prone to prop cavitation.

I'm not anti flat air floors but you have to accept some negatives in use to offset their convenience and this may or may not be important which is why I'd advise a trial before buying. If you were looking at a flat air floor I'd go for a major brand who didn't want to advise a 10mph maximum!

I've only ever looked at Honwave V air floors at the pontoon but assume they would be far better... as would the Prowave V air floor in Gurnard's images... and as you know I can guarantee the Aerotec air floor is totally stiff with none of the flexibility issues.
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I wouldn't go near that specific model you have linked to Amukinado. Note in the listing they say... "Speeds of up to 10 mph are suggested as the airdeck on such a large boat can cause drag and warp at higher speeds".
I would agree with you there 100 % Fenlander ..

So your choice in narrowing now Amukinado.

I know its an expensive boat..but if lightness.. storage ..and a good solid floor plus easy set up ..would you consider the F Rib .. in the third photo I posted ?

Its a fibre glass hull..so very fast with a small engine as it has very little drag.. you wont puncture the floor and it certainly wont flop as its not an air floor. Extremely stable too..I watch a video of a guy haul a 100lb skate to the surface ..while fishing in one.

They fold into three parts ..and had no problem that I saw in rough weather although it did slap the waves a bit..but this was in very confused waters

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>>>would you consider the F Rib

That's an interesting thought. I've had an open mind on them since interest increased on this forum a year or two ago... shame most of the owners thought they needed to set up a new forum... I hate straddling two forums.

Having spent a fair bit on a new SIB just recently and wanting a portable package but with absolutely no floor flex I did consider the FRib.

The 375 model that seems to equate to the Honwave 3.8ie (V air floor model) is around 2000 more than the Honwave. It is 32lbs heavier than the Honwave and the packed size is a fair bit larger... definitely couldn't be so easily squashed into the back of a car with other outing/holiday luggage.

So you really need to have a strong reason for wanting the grp floor to pay the uplift over any comparable SIB.

But as I said at the start I have an open mind and will be interested to see their longevity... and how they are priced/regarded on the used market over the next few years.
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