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Old 18 June 2009, 09:07   #1
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Grandad looking for a SIB..... Help Please!!!!

Hi all.

Iím sure you get loads of posts asking for help and Iím sorry to admit it, but hereís another one.

Back when I was a younger man I used to have a 17 foot Bayliner that was used in North Wales, the Lake District, Southern France and Spain. We mainly used it at the time for pottering about in the sea and for water skiing and towing a doughnut. Unfortunately as my children got older the boat got used less and less and in the end I sold it. The down side to such a heavy boat was towing and launching the boat was always hard work as we didnít have it moored anywhere, we would just tow it to where we wanted to use it.

Iíve now got plenty of grand children and I want to introduce them to the joys of boating but instead of going back to something like a Bayliner, Iíd rather start off with an inflatable as my eldest grandchild is only 10. Unfortunately I know nothing about them so Iím looking for advice. Iíve had a look around the internet but thereís so much information out there and I just donít know where to start.

Basically Iím looking for a 2nd hand inflatable (SIB?) that can be used for pottering about with 6-8 people in it, but I also want to be able to use it with maybe 4 people in it for water skiing and towing inflatable toys. I also need it be portable as I donít want to go back to towing just yet. I have an estate car and if possible am looking for something that will fit in the boot. What size boat should I be looking for? What size engine do I need for water skiing? Is it realistic to hope to be able to fit all the things that I need in the boot of my car? What have I forgotten? I don't know if this is realistic but I'm looking to spend in the region of £2000 - £3000.

If youíre still reading after all that Iíd appreciate any advice. Cheers.
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Old 18 June 2009, 09:31   #2
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I am guessing here, but i would have thought your're asking a bit much for a sib here?
something big enough to meet all the criteria is going to be fairly hefty, with an engine big enough to waterski and get sensible speed with 8 people, thats going to be a heavy lump to lift on and off.
I have seen a lot of sibs around the 5M mark and they are not light! i have watched people struggle and drag them out of the back of vans, inflate them, fit engine , console etc, and it takes 1/10 of the time to slip a 5.4m rib off a rollercoaster trailer!
IMHO small sibs like 3.8/4.2m aerodecks are great with small 2 stroke outboards, for 2/3 but i think the pros and cons of towing need to be considered carefully if you want 8 people and a reasonable performance,
I must be honest here i dont have much experience of sibs and i am ready to be torn to pieces but i would go for a rib, its much less hassle if you can tow it.
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Old 18 June 2009, 09:40   #3
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Dare I mention that you may need to look at a small RIB - possibly a used 4m Searider . Very easy to tow & will allow you to do all that you want ?

As said any SIB that will tow skiers etc ,& carry 4 people at a sensible speed / carry 8 slowly will be more trouble/ weight than its worth.
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Old 18 June 2009, 09:43   #4
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Dare I mention that you may need to look at a small RIB - possibly a used 4m Searider . Very easy to tow & will allow you to do all that you want ?

As said any SIB that will tow skiers etc ,& carry 4 people at a sensible speed / carry 8 slowly will be more trouble/ weight than its worth.
Graeme coopers SR4 is worth a look at, its a tidy boat and a tidy trailer and its good value at his asking price.
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Old 18 June 2009, 09:46   #5
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Graeme coopers SR4 is worth a look at, its a tidy boat and a tidy trailer and its good value at his asking price.
this one ;

http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?t=30426

At that price, if I was looking to buy I'd take his arm and some of his shoudler off !
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Old 18 June 2009, 09:52   #6
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I think theres your answer mate - very manageable boat it'll go okay with a 40 too
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Old 18 June 2009, 10:07   #7
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I would just like to point out that Olly and myself aren't on comission either!

heres a link to a piccy of it.

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the engine has been upgraded since to a yam with PTT.
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Old 18 June 2009, 10:15   #8
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Cheers for the speedy responses, it's much appreciated. :-)

On a similar vein, I live near Manchester and I've come across a web-site of a company based near me and am thinking of going looking at one of their boats. From this description is this something I should be looking at:

http://www.billhigham.co.uk/inflatables.php

"SEAPRO 430HD & 40hp Mariner 2 stroke
Boat Type: HD Inflatable

For serious fun on the water the 430HD is offered with a mariner 40hp 2 stroke contract exchange engine. This 'go anywhere' package is just at home as a large family fun boat, towing skiers and ringos, or as a serious workboat/safety boat. As a package we offer the 430HD and 40 mariner contract exchange outboard @ £2499 inc VAT!!"

To a complete novice that looks great but am I missing something? Thank you again.
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Old 18 June 2009, 10:21   #9
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Doesn't look to bad a deal. I know he's over priced on his engines but that doesn't seem to bad.
It wont handle like a 4m Searider though.
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SIB?) that can be used for pottering about with 6-8 people in it, but I also want to be able to use it with maybe 4 people in it for water skiing and towing inflatable toys. I also need it be portable as I donít want to go back to towing just yet. I have an estate car and if possible am looking for something that will fit in the boot.
In short, and I don't mean to be abrupt:-
You don't have a hope unless you've got a Transit van to carry something that big , the engine will be too heavy to manage easily and getting the floor in will be more of a pain in the butt than towing a boat.
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