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Old 27 April 2012, 13:13   #1
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First sea trip advice

Hi,

I'm planning on using my SIB on the sea for the first time soon around Helford and Falmouth. I've been beavering away buying extra safety kit because so far I've only used it inland. Can anyone think of anything I really should have that's not listed?:

-2kg Bruce type anchor (from what I've read the grapnel I had would be useless)
-4m of chain
-50m of 8mm anchor rope (not sure if that's enough really)
-round ended knife
-inshore flare pack
-auto-inflating life jackets
-spare kill cord
-first aid kit
-charts
-5 litre of spare fuel
-VHF radio

Also if conditions are good, I was thinking about crossing from Falmouth to Helford and back, would that be reasonable in a 4 meter Honwave with a 20HP straight across the bay? looks like I would need to be about a mile out for that.. would I likely pooh my pants?

Thanks

Matt
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Old 27 April 2012, 14:29   #2
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For those going out to sea, the RNLI's top sea safety tips are:
  1. Wear a lifejacket
  2. Get relevant training
  3. Carry a means of calling for help
  4. Check engine and fuel
  5. Tell others where you are going
  6. Check weather and tides.
Looking at the list
1 is covered
2 ?
3 is well covered
4 a third out, a third back and a third in reserve
5 never forget
6 very important

Your anchor is very good but a grapnel is not as bad as it's press if the correct weight is used.
Your anchor rode is plently long
In terms of basic nav - do you have a hand compass and laminated chart or a handheld chartplotter/GPS.

Have a good trip and take plently of photos
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Old 27 April 2012, 14:40   #3
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Also if conditions are good, I was thinking about crossing from Falmouth to Helford and back, would that be reasonable in a 4 meter Honwave with a 20HP straight across the bay? looks like I would need to be about a mile out for that.. would I likely pooh my pants?


Matt
We live on the Helford side, our 15yo daughter does that trip regularly in our 4m Searider wthout soiling her under-crackers, but she's double 'ard.
A few weeks ago, I saw a couple of clowns crossing the bay on stand-up paddle boards in the dark with no lights whatsoever.

Fal Bay is well sheltered and in full view of Fal CG station. With the kit that you have, a trip across the bay will be fun. Maybe avoid a full Southerly or SE blow.
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Old 27 April 2012, 15:45   #4
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For those going out to sea, the RNLI's top sea safety tips are:
  1. Wear a lifejacket
  2. Get relevant training
  3. Carry a means of calling for help
  4. Check engine and fuel
  5. Tell others where you are going
  6. Check weather and tides.
Looking at the list
1 is covered
2 ?
3 is well covered
4 a third out, a third back and a third in reserve
5 never forget
6 very important

Your anchor is very good but a grapnel is not as bad as it's press if the correct weight is used.
Your anchor rode is plently long
In terms of basic nav - do you have a hand compass and laminated chart or a handheld chartplotter/GPS.

Have a good trip and take plently of photos
Thanks for the advice. The training part is not covered, I have read about the subject.. a lot, used boats before and understand the importance of training. I want to do RYA Powerboat 2 and will but can't afford it right now having bought all the kit, plus the holiday costs. I don't want to be irresponsible so if you or others think I should get training please say, I won't be offended

For Nav I have a hand compass and charts (they aren't laminated...yet ) I was thinking about buying the Navionics Android app for chartplotter/GPS but decided to buy the actual charts instead. I was starting to think I should by the app too. You asking has made my mind up.

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Old 27 April 2012, 15:59   #5
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We live on the Helford side, our 15yo daughter does that trip regularly in our 4m Searider wthout soiling her under-crackers, but she's double 'ard.
A few weeks ago, I saw a couple of clowns crossing the bay on stand-up paddle boards in the dark with no lights whatsoever.

Fal Bay is well sheltered and in full view of Fal CG station. With the kit that you have, a trip across the bay will be fun. Maybe avoid a full Southerly or SE blow.
Excellent thanks, I can take man nappies off my check list!
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Old 27 April 2012, 16:11   #7
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Matt, there's a Disco cruise that runs from Falmouth to the Helford and back on Fri and Sat eves in the summer. You could try following it for your first bay crossing. As long as you dodge the empty beer cans and pasty bags, you should be ok.
It will be in the next couple of weeks, when does the Disco cruise start.. and to they play drum and bass . If the weather doesn't improve I'll be dodging empty beer cans swiming after my boat when it floats out of my garage
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It's a route I've done a few times with the family in a Bombard Aerotec, as Mollers says it should be a fun trip, we always thought so.

As far as charts go I always used a decent quality (Berghaus) map case designed for hill walking, I fold the chart so the entire route is on one side and have an OS map of the area folded on the other side. This has always worked well for me and is easy to use. Remember a SIB journey can be bouncy and wet, for me the simplicity of a large, relatively cheap, piece of paper wins every time for that kind of trip.
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It's a route I've done a few times with the family in a Bombard Aerotec, as Mollers says it should be a fun trip, we always thought so.

As far as charts go I always used a decent quality (Berghaus) map case designed for hill walking, I fold the chart so the entire route is on one side and have an OS map of the area folded on the other side. This has always worked well for me and is easy to use. Remember a SIB journey can be bouncy and wet, for me the simplicity of a large, relatively cheap, piece of paper wins every time for that kind of trip.
Thanks for the tip.

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sound,s like your taking alot of stuff in your boat how many people are going ? there wont be much space left keep your eye on the weather and take with you some CALM you will be fine.....iceland
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