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Old 07 November 2013, 16:28   #51
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the activ is like a keel attached to the floor. where as the light roller is just a seperate floor on top of a traditional tube keel.

i think the honwave is probably most cost effective for me, i dont think i could afford a bombard even if they sold them down under.
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Old 07 November 2013, 18:51   #52
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people keep telling me the 1.5 feet difference between my zodiac and the honwave will make a huge difference for planing and handling chop. it seems odd though because its only 45cm difference, doesnt seem that significant.
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If budget is an issue, go for the Honwave. Zodiac inflatables use own Zodiac spare parts, standard other brands spare parts doesn't match, both have prohibitive out of this world prices compare to a Honwave. Apple vs a standard PC comparison.-

45 cm difference is not an issue if having a healthy engine and prop and running at least 75% of the max transom rated power while remaing light loaded.-

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If you're looking for a budget v airfloor don't rule out the sunsport. Made in the same factory as the Honwave and almost identical.

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this flex people speak of in honwaves, does it really take you instantly off the plane?

it seems odd as the boat is designed to have a deep V up front then flatten out (which I presume is where some say it flexes like most sibs). i would have thought if its pumped to correct PSI the hull keel will be like a rib hardness as would the floor and aft of hull (nearer transom).
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this flex people speak of in honwaves, does it really take you instantly off the plane?

it seems odd as the boat is designed to have a deep V up front then flatten out (which I presume is where some say it flexes like most sibs). i would have thought if its pumped to correct PSI the hull keel will be like a rib hardness as would the floor and aft of hull (nearer transom).
In my experience the flex only happens when you have the max HP engine, a fully loaded boat and the floor is not inflated to the correct pressure. Make sure you top the floor up after the boat has been in the water for a while and the temperature has equalised and you wont have a problem.
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thanks pirate. thats reassuring.

we found the 2.85 quite cramped for 2. the 3.2m honwave is 40cm longer internally. problem is we cant view one locally only the 2.7m, which the wifey already said seems about same size as the 2.85. ive tried explaining to her its also about getting over a certains size so there is less dragging surface than the 2.85.

will the 3.2m honwave perform (plane quicker) than the 2.85m zodiac?
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The issue with inflatable decks is that need to be fully inflated to it's max factory working pressures, usually around 12 PSI with gauge and toppeed back once floating on water after some minutes rest for overall presssure to stabilize. If not, will experimemt a water rolling like effect felt under deck at speed, flex issues, much worst on choopy waters. Can't compare the rigidity of a fully PSI inflated Acti V deck against a rib, sorrry both are different water animals with different water behaviours.

Don't go under a 320 mt size sib, wify and you will be bored fast, deck space is vital, a must have. If both 280 and 320 uses same 15 HP engine, 320 should plane faster, less hull drag to overcome when at full throttle going from a dead stop towards plane...

Why do you want an Acti V sib for ? Installation, keeeping issues, lighter weight compared to a 320 standard alum panel floor sib or small rib ?

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we essentially want to go for a sib that has the most RIB like ride. of those you have the activ (zodiac), honwave and of course bombard (which we cannot get locally). the honwave and bombard are slightly different in that they have hard outer hulls (from the high pressure V panels), which is where a lot of the problem with traditional keel sibs comes from with the material on the hull flexing due not being high pressure (only the keel inside is inflated). the bombard is not available locally and would not be an affordable option, even thought he best one :-)

the honwave really is the only suitable choice locally. there are other sibs, but they are just high pressure air floors with inflatable keels.

the reason we need inflatable floor is we live in an apartment with no storage space so needs to be assembled each outing and be light. we thought about a folding transom rib, but its just too tight getting up stairs and we cant afford one anyway. we will not go back to wood/ali floors, they are a ridiculous concept imo, unless you enjoy putting them together. if you have the room to store one you have the room for a rib.
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Hey and a special thanks to everyone for their thoughts an opinions, I think there is a wealth of info in this thread, not just for myself but for anyone looking for a good performing SIB, what to look for etc.
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